[9/5/2013 7:26:06 PM] BZ Riger:
to me the idea / energy of having co-creative and colaberative energy rather than combative and punitive energy is the way to go
[9/5/2013 7:33:11 PM] sidney mytton-watson: OOps, am I in the wrong room? I thought that this was for those who were interested in the Cvacs and approaching banks? If this is not that room, can you please add me when you make it available, BZ> Thanks.
[9/5/2013 7:37:03 PM] BZ Riger: this room has nothing to do with CVACs but in people working together to co-create/refine paperwork to go to banks in a collaberative energy with bankers to access some of our value and give them a chance to repurpose themselves
[9/5/2013 7:37:25 PM] BZ Riger: people can add people in their contacts who want to come play
[9/5/2013 7:38:12 PM] BZ Riger: but I would as that you be responsible for who you add and that we keep a heart centered energy with a focus on what I mentioned ^ there
[9/5/2013 7:38:27 PM] BZ Riger: plenty of other rooms for all sorts of other conversations
[9/5/2013 7:44:11 PM] Carol MHVolk: do you think maybe starting with what Bob did might be a good start to refine the paperwork?
[9/5/2013 7:45:11 PM] sidney mytton-watson: Bob was rejected by hi bank, wasn’t he? He knew his bank and I find that a bit disturbing. MAybe he should be added here to ask him what he would suggest, apart from taking the elite conartists to dinner?
[9/5/2013 7:45:42 PM] BZ Riger: well I have taken what he did and changed a few things and made my own
[9/5/2013 7:45:56 PM] BZ Riger: Helen Vita has made her own
[9/5/2013 7:46:10 PM] Thomas M: The first question and concern I would have is the paperwork (the DOV). Bob said his paperwork was not the problem…the problem was the bank not willing to legally accept it. Question….what paperwork do you all have or are going to use to present to the bank your worth…Do you think a script for dialogue with banksters would be helpful…not one read by rote…but points to study and have at ready for rebutal of banksters refusal attempt….
[9/5/2013 7:46:43 PM] BZ Riger: from my perspective going in with a collaberative attitude rather than punitive and you(banker^&*%) have to do this is the way to go IMO
one thing I feel is important is to conduct yourself just the way you would wanting to build your team when going into a bank to open an account to do all the things you would like to do/create/experience
[9/5/2013 7:48:09 PM] Thomas M: I also have a question on the UCC filing that underwrites the value…at least as far as the banksters are concerned…they want to know where the “money” is…and we can tell them – pointing to ourselves – it is here.
[9/5/2013 7:51:03 PM] BZ Riger: I will go in with the intention to open a new account, I will have a conversation with them that I want to build a team of them helping me with access to my value so that I can create what I want to create with it… in that way the conversation will flow, they will ask some questions as they are having the conversation to fill out your profile, as they like to have their paperwork in order, when as that progresses you get to the part where they ask how you would like to fund the initial deposit, that is when I would present my certificate of value
[9/5/2013 7:51:11 PM] BZ Riger: then I would go forward from there
[9/5/2013 7:52:02 PM] Carol MHVolk: so BZ are we doing this as groups in our towns or individually?
[9/5/2013 7:54:01 PM] BZ Riger: well all of the above feels good depending where people are
[9/5/2013 7:55:26 PM] sidney mytton-watson: I like this room BZ< I feel that we are achieving something and staying on track. Congratulations
[9/5/2013 7:56:54 PM] Carol MHVolk: so how many people do we know that tried to do the value that we can add here? Bob, Kiri…perhaps we can get their docs and tweak them — do we want to assign this to one person in the room?
[9/5/2013 7:57:27 PM] BZ Riger: well the docs that those you mentioned are on the I UV site
[9/5/2013 7:57:47 PM] BZ Riger: then as I said Helen has made her own tweaked ones as have I
[9/5/2013 7:57:53 PM] BZ Riger: may be others as well
[9/5/2013 7:57:55 PM] Carol MHVolk: I would take this on and perhaps a group can be in a distribution list on e-mail so we can tweak and then share?
[9/5/2013 7:58:18 PM] Thomas M: [Thursday, September 05, 2013 7:51 PM] BZ Riger:
[9/5/2013 7:59:26 PM] Thomas M: My folder contains all the Bob “works”. To me that should be sufficient…but a we have seen…the banksters want “something” else…
[9/5/2013 8:00:04 PM | Edited 8:00:12 PM] BZ Riger: from my perspective it is the energy and approach you go in with first, then the paperwork for the value is right in line with that
then the supporting additional information is just that a supporting or secondary role to the first which is your energy your intent and your KNOWING you are the value
[9/5/2013 8:00:10 PM] Terra E Stella: Thanks, BZ…. let’s see what we can do. I like this beginning on a New Moon Day – powerful. How would it be that we all went to the banks the same day in different cities… With JP Morgan now exiting the student loans, I think we have a great chance to go to them. To play fair, as they can not go on with this fraud anymore.
[9/5/2013 8:00:33 PM] BZ Riger: yes absolutely Terra my intentions exactly
[9/5/2013 8:01:19 PM] sidney mytton-watson: AGreed Thomas. We need to have mock up trial rund on Skype as each one practices to the group their approach to their bank. I am still awaiting a reply to my request email to Billy Turner on how he managed to access his funds in funding a local town council for $500,000,000. I will let you know of the response. I feel secure in this room BZ. Thank God, we can now talk openly about the most important mater that each of us has in being able to move forward in our lives.
[9/5/2013 8:01:45 PM] BZ Riger: I think that a planned wave of energy and intention going into the banks together “virtualy” meaning everyone in their respective locations is an excellent energetic and physical approach
[9/5/2013 8:02:41 PM] Thomas M: [Thursday, September 05, 2013 8:01 PM] BZ Riger:
[9/5/2013 8:03:53 PM] Carol MHVolk: OK — so I will help with the docs…just let me know when you need my help!! I am here and I don’t want to chat much so I will just put this as my contribution for now and then see when you need me (heart)
[9/5/2013 8:04:06 PM] sidney mytton-watson: CAn I suggest that we get sent out to ourselves the various scripts that are available now and practice what we want to dowith it and schedule a mock bank approach run for a week from now, say next Friday? Then we can practice on each other with a controlled room. No jokes, laughing etc.
[9/5/2013 8:05:14 PM] BZ Riger: [Thursday, September 05, 2013 7:53 PM] BZ Riger:
[9/5/2013 8:05:21 PM] Holly Tucker: Agreed Sidney, I’d love to see an concerted strategy to our efforts.
[9/5/2013 8:06:01 PM] Holly Tucker: May sound silly but some role playing might help folks feel more comfortable in speaking with banking officials.
[9/5/2013 8:06:34 PM] Deb and Fred .: I think you may be right with that Holly.
[9/5/2013 8:06:34 PM] BZ Riger: I can set up a conference call on my bridgeline and it can be recorded so others can listen to it later
[9/5/2013 8:06:51 PM] BZ Riger: if we do it on a skype call the # of people is limited
[9/5/2013 8:06:58 PM] BZ Riger: but that is an option too
[9/5/2013 8:06:59 PM] sidney mytton-watson: Yes, it can start with us. WHo would like to convene? And everyone will be able to speak, but we need to have a control so that we have some leadership and direction. Thanks the word that I was looking for was role playing. I should know, I did that for years in training to be a counsellor.
[9/5/2013 8:07:38 PM] sidney mytton-watson: If you an arrange the call then do it BZ.
[9/5/2013 8:07:56 PM] Holly Tucker: Right now I would solicit those who feel they have a good handle on the concepts and language. I would suggest bringing Bob Wright into the room for assistance.
[9/5/2013 8:08:07 PM] BZ Riger: sure happy to everyone can decide on a time and I will put the phone number and access code in here
[9/5/2013 8:08:59 PM] BZ Riger: that good Holly send him a note and ask if he would like to come play
[9/5/2013 8:09:06 PM] Holly Tucker: K
[9/5/2013 8:11:30 PM] Thomas M: Definitely have a recordign available for afterwards…
[9/5/2013 8:12:24 PM] BZ Riger: yes that is not a problem Thomas
[9/5/2013 8:12:25 PM] Carol MHVolk: I can help with the docs — the handle on the concepts not so much but for sure I really want to help where I can so make sure you KNOW if you need me I am here ok
[9/5/2013 8:17:09 PM] Holly Tucker: Ok, sent Bob a note.
[9/5/2013 8:27:40 PM | Edited 8:27:55 PM] Holly Tucker: Thanks for setting up. Meantime, BZ do you want to put out a solicitation in appropriate Skype rooms for those with DOV aptitude to join this room?
[9/5/2013 8:28:28 PM] BZ Riger: well I think Joyce was going to do that
[9/5/2013 8:29:40 PM] Joyce Paulson: What was I going to do BZ?
[9/5/2013 8:30:03 PM] BZ Riger: people should type in here when a call would be good we can come to consensus set on up on my bridgeline and recorded for listening later for each as well maybe in next 24-36 hours
[9/5/2013 8:30:47 PM] Thomas M: This is going to work! At the very least we will have some ocnfidence and “ammo” to bring to the banksters…They soon will know that they need us…but not for long 
[9/5/2013 8:32:07 PM] BZ Riger: (sun)(heart)(sun) IFLAYBOL … I am off to go outside with my intentions to manifest on this very auspicious New Moon
[9/5/2013 8:32:46 PM] Terra E Stella: Same here, BZ sounds great!
[9/5/2013 9:05:15 PM] Carol MHVolk: THIS IS THE “DO” ROOM!!!!
[9/5/2013 9:06:51 PM] Joyce Paulson: Yes it most Certainly Is….Carol!! (nod)!!
[9/5/2013 9:09:25 PM] Joyce Paulson: And if you know of anyone interested in joining us please don’t hesitate to let them know about us! 
[9/5/2013 9:10:42 PM] sidney mytton-watson: But also remind them that it is to be a room that stays on topic and not running around having parties and having extra talk, plenty of other rooms for that available.
[9/5/2013 9:15:56 PM] sidney mytton-watson: This is for our survival and victory
[9/5/2013 9:16:56 PM] FunkyKatnissmadmanina .: thank you for saying that sidney
[9/5/2013 9:20:00 PM] Carol MHVolk: YUP!!! I agree….
[9/5/2013 9:24:53 PM] BZ Riger:
Saturday US 8am Pacfic time zone
Saturday US 2 pm Pacific time zone
[9/5/2013 9:28:33 PM] Joyce Paulson: I would also like to add that it would be nice if we could start a list of people interested in getting qroups together…in their areas…with emails for contact info. Would someone like to volunteer for this?
[9/5/2013 9:29:46 PM] Carol MHVolk: I could do a spreadsheet
[9/5/2013 9:30:02 PM] Carol MHVolk: like a database
[9/5/2013 9:30:16 PM] Joyce Paulson: That would be great Carol!!
[9/5/2013 9:31:02 PM] Carol MHVolk: so perhaps everyone in this room could list Name, where you live – city and state or province etc, e-mail — anything else we need?
[9/5/2013 9:32:12 PM] Carol MHVolk: then I can pull it and as we add new people we can have a standard sentence that says for our database please provide xyz
[9/5/2013 9:32:23 PM] Carol MHVolk: I can always put that sentence on here ok…
[9/5/2013 9:32:51 PM] Carol MHVolk: oh good we can have NOTES which could be what you just put in brackets
[9/5/2013 9:33:34 PM] Carol MHVolk: perhaps a what have you done with your bank? do you have docs you used? keep adding people cause that could be how we build the database
[9/5/2013 9:33:53 PM] Carol MHVolk: I will make a distribution list too with all the e-mails
[9/5/2013 9:34:12 PM] Carol MHVolk: so I can share the spreadsheet/database
[9/5/2013 9:54:06 PM] Carol MHVolk: I just sent the 3 of you a test e-mail with the spreadsheet
[1:37:42 AM] sidney mytton-watson: Ithink your Sunday 2pm looks good this end in Australia.
[2:17:03 AM] sidney mytton-watson: BZ You will be recording the role playing etc? So that we can listen and learn.
[3:03:01 AM] Vanessa Bragg: HI all, sorry joined group as it started then had to leave computer,,,,so catching up, have posted a bit of info in relation to the bits already stated…. nothing ground breaking but all our bits will help………….The first question and concern I would have is the paperwork (the DOV). Bob said his paperwork was not the problem…the problem was the bank not willing to legally accept it. Question….what paperwork do you all have or are going to use to present to the bank your worth…Do you think a script for dialogue with banksters would be helpful…not one read by rote…but points to study and have at ready for rebutal of banksters refusal attempt……………… some worded material would really help me, the main points would be key, to me standing in my space around it, would love to think i was as literate at Bob, but would be dreaming!!! THere appears to be a great range of doc out there, to work with, I would like to see Helens and your BZ too!! agreed Carol, tweak and share situation, if your happy t collate that would be great, with collective intention, should be very powerful. BZ – I think that a planned wave of energy and intention going into the banks together “virtualy” meaning everyone in their respective locations is an excellent energetic and physical approach……absolutely, I will stand with energetics on this if we can pinpoint time and dates that the wave begins I will work intentnally and meditatively with the parties taking walk to the banks to hold the space of love and expansion for humanity…….BZ Riger: if we do it on a skype call the # of people is limited, …..it would be good to do this separately in groups of 5 ( for personal power) so one in the ONE people, one is the banker and 3 offer feedback( 3 being the integration) , then it doesn’t feel like we need to have everyone on a large call, where the energy could easily shatter. ……..as for BOB would love to have his input too!!!!, this feels really powerful and very real, thanks BZ for the start up. For those gathering details [email protected] australia NSW, hope i covered it all, looking forward to the journey.x
[3:04:54 AM] Vanessa Bragg: I am up for a call just let me know when , and Ill do a midnighter if needed. Someone will just have to give me clear details about time zone of origin of call.
[4:57:12 AM] unelady: IMO. we all should go and make our paper marketable for the banks and go on and have all we need to change it all… that would be an instant bridge and we could then decide to turn everything around. That is using the bank tools in our advantage.
[6:12:03 AM] Holly Tucker: Still waiting to hear from Bob on an invitation to join this room and assist with his expertise.
[7:03:22 AM] Terra E Stella: BZ, I don’t think any of these times will work for me, but I’ll be happy with whatever you decide. We can always adjust things if necessary, as long the idea is the same.
[7:07:30 AM] Carol MHVolk: I will update my spreadsheet later this morning — if you haven’t sent in your contact info please post it here — I am gathering information on everyone in the room so we know of others in our area etc….Name, where you live – city and state or province etc, e-mail — and if you have documents you’ve created – Thanks!
[7:49:58 AM] Carol MHVolk: thanks everyone — I will keep adding to the spreadsheet to ensure our database of people is populated — then every so often I can send it out to you FYI and it will be dated so you always know the current doc…this way you can start to coordinate people in your area too (heart)
[7:50:38 AM] Carol MHVolk: I am setting up a distribution list — that way if there is something important as well we will all know via e-mail
[8:04:16 AM] Carol MHVolk: BZ is trying to coordinate some phone calls and role playing that will be recorded too…I am the spreadsheet girl so just sit tight — I am sure things will get coordinated soon on here…
[8:06:33 AM] Carol MHVolk: Please note that anyone that gives me their information it will become part of the BIG spreadsheet I am putting together — if you don’t want your info on that list let me know — only saying this because I got the info sent in a PM which made me think of this
[8:16:34 AM] Carol MHVolk: Hey BZ — how about I don’t post the rules and leave that for you and I will just post my part about the INFO gathering? this morning I was just trying to help since you weren’t here…sound good?
[8:17:49 AM] BZ Riger: [2:17 AM] sidney mytton-watson:
[8:23:52 AM] BZ Riger: sure Carol, I did not see yours was starting at top working down catching up and as there were so many adds thought I would pop them in
[8:26:45 AM] Carol MHVolk: too bad there wasn’t a place this could be posted…BZ I am going to add those links to the bottom of my spreadsheet too as well as the stuff we keep repeating
[8:27:08 AM] Carol MHVolk: then at least it is a snapshot for people
[8:28:25 AM] BZ Riger: well, that was another thing I was going to say.
[8:29:12 AM] Carol MHVolk: perfect
[8:32:39 AM] Justin Deschamps: very exciting!
[8:44:11 AM] Dr. Michelle Johnson, ND: Saturday US 2pm Pacific Time for me too
[8:48:27 AM] BZ Riger: just for clarity (IMO)
[9:03:55 AM] BZ Riger: so far this time frame <<< Saturday US 2pm Pacific time>> seems to work for a number of people.who else can make it then? what would everyone like to accomplish on the call? I will record it and make the recording available for everyone. its best to use a bridgeline if we have more than 5 people which we will. I can put the call in number and details in once we set on the first time.
[9:11:01 AM] Justin Deschamps: Well said BZ, work with our partners in contrast
[9:12:20 AM] BZ Riger: would they not now be our Partners in Possibility and Expansion ?
[9:42:23 AM] Justin Deschamps: indeed, and your point about non combativeness is essential IMO. in my personal experience of sharing true, incorporating the others perspective and experience is essential. The goal is discourse not soap box style ranting. Nearly EVERYONE has experience of the ineffectual nature of contemporary society. The key is bringing that fourth in the discourse and then providing solutions once the other person is ready, and open to discuss such things.
[9:50:07 AM] Terra E Stella: Correct BZ. We just have to get them to real eyes it
[9:50:36 AM] Justin Deschamps: real eyes it, nice haha
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