(Stillness in the Storm Editor) The following is an analysis of some of the latest Q Anon information related to the claim that spy satellites and supercomputers were taken out by White Hats last week.
The writer, Bernard Grover, asserts that these claims are unverifiable, not supported by evidence that we can use to confirm Q Anon’s claims are true. He rebukes the Q Anon followers for accepting, without evidence that Q had anything to do with taking out the spy satellites and supercomputers.
Furthermore, he asserts that if John McCain was in fact “put to death” as John Kasich let slip on CNN recently, then this is an ethically questionable move by Q Anon. Grover contends that criminals should have a public trial and not be adjudicated without the oversight of the public; thus, if the White Hats did kill McCain than Grover contends this is a breach of the principles of justice. Finally, he says that we, who follow Q Anon, should not blindly accept these methods as they compromise our values and integrity.
I would say that there are some interesting issues raised by Grover.
Yes, it is a principle of justice and jurisprudence that the accused has the right to face their accuser and that trials should be public to ensure justice is carried out fairly. But what Grover seems to miss in his analysis is that we’re in a wartime situation. The citizens of almost every government on earth are legally considered enemies of the state. This means that, from a lawful perspective, the government is the enemy of the people. As such, the same principles of behavior we use in peacetime can’t apply during wartime.
Should an alliance of patriots decide to take actions to restore the rule of law and proper government function, they have a lawful right to suspend normal modes of justice to ensure peace and prosperity are restored—but limited to the minimum necessary compromise. Of course, the problem here is that we don’t really know what the plan of the alliance is or who is involved. We have to “trust the plan” as Q Anon keeps saying.
On this score, as a people, I agree we should think more carefully and question things, first and foremost, so we can avoid being duped, and secondly, so we can ensure proper justice takes place. The alliance shouldn’t become our next set of masters, they should, if they are truly interested in freedom, give the people their power back and allow for the people to begin ruling themselves once again.
While we don’t know if McCain was in fact killed by the alliance, if he was, it’s possible he did have some kind of secret trial first. If so, then McCain could have been tried properly, but due to the sensitive nature of the takedown of the Deep State, this couldn’t be made public for tactical reasons. Rumors abound that Trump and the alliance have regained power over the military and plan on using secret courts to prosecute Deep State criminals, perhaps McCain was one of the first ones to be processed.
Also consider the unprecedented number of sealed indictments, fifty times more than what we normally see in an annual period, suggesting that a major operation is underway. The reason sealed indictments exist is because the scope of criminal activity is so vast that operations related to dismantling it need to be kept very secret. Considering the Deep State has access to intelligence service data collection that presumably gives it the power to keep track of almost all activities, extreme secrecy would be warranted when attempting to take them out.
All this being said, while Grover raises concerns that are valid insofar as principles of justice and law, he doesn’t seem to consider the strategic needs of a massive and unprecedented global takedown of the Deep State.
In short, in life, while we should strive to realize our ideals and principles as much as possible, we sometimes need to compromise due to situational necessity. We don’t use force against another unless a situation calls for it, invoking the principles of self-defense and non-aggression. The bottom line is if we made the whole Deep State takedown operation public, having a public trial for John McCain for instance, this would alert other Deep State actors and undermine the takedown of the whole criminal network.
Solving global problems related to a massive conspiracy of power that, by some accounts, has existed for hundreds if not thousands of years is no easy thing. All the factors at play need to be considered carefully, and reactionary actions that make us feel good may not be the best thing in the long term. We need to win the war, not just a battle or two.
by Bernard Grover, September 8th, 2018
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Note that this article was posted on 8 September, or 8/9, or 8+9=17=Q. Coincidence?
Just when I think I can get away from Q for a time and think about something else for a bit, Q starts dropping over a hundred new posts that require some attention, because it seems that Q is determined to put on a show for the masses.
First, there was some weird activity on this site, where there were thousands of hits in a regular pattern averaging roughly 300 an hour. Was this an attempt to mount a DDoS attack? Or was it a White Knight trying to drive up search engine visibility? Maybe Q was sending me a message?
Secondly, Q twice posted a Google search for “Qanon,” which showed 3.8 million hits. Of course, the Q-vians crowed about the Rise of Q and the mythical public awareness growing.
Being the curious guy that I am, I did a search on “Bernard Grover,” and guess what? I got over 5 million hits. I can only conclude that I am bigger than Q – at least for now; just putting some perspective on the matter.
I suspect that most of what we are seeing in the MSM (i.e. GeezerMedia) right now is all part of an elaborate multi-pronged trolling psy-op that includes Q’s drops, Trump’s histrionics and a number of humiliating events for the media boys in the Mockingbird press.
The media, the pundits, the Democrats and the masses are all being set up for what appears to be some enormous crescendo in October, just before the mid-term elections. Q has alluded to this by referring to “Red October” (e.g. Q1957), in the sense of a wave of revelations beneficial to Republicans just prior to the polls opening.
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Somewhat more interesting is that all of this seems to be heating up in the wake of John McCain’s death, which Q strongly implies was forced on him – with the Q-vians suspecting everything from a mandatory suicide (the Rommel Option) to the death sentence from a secret military tribunal and court martial.
In fact, Q went silent a few days before McCain’s exit, and then went absolutely ballistic immediately following, dropping over 200 posts in the past two weeks. Read that as you will, but the Q-vians see it as McCain’s death having removed some kind of block or hinderance allowing Q much greater latitude.
For more information on the whole McCain event, please see the bottom of my previous post, The Q Prophesy. This includes a video clip of Governor John Kasich saying plainly that McCain was “put to death”. I take this with a grain of salts, as it may be part of the grand misdirection around the Brett Kavanaugh confirmation hearings for the US Supreme Court – more on that in a moment.
What happened next is positively spectactular, or at least it would be if it were in any way verifiable and true.
Q claimed to have taken down several CIA servers, collectively called Snow White, and killed an entire fleet of CIA and MI-6 (British) spy satellites. Snow White is an array of seven super-computers used by the CIA, each with the name of one of the Seven Dwarves from the fairy tale (Sleepy, Grumpy, Doc, etc.).
Q concludes the series of posts with the somewhat cryptic note (Q2021):
GCHQ Bude sent DISTRESS SIG 8:09 EST.
NSA NO MORE.
Main frequency bands TERMINATED.
This is an extraordinary set of claims that, as Carl Sagan would say, requires extraordinary proof. It may not shock readers here to know that “proof” is notably missing in this case.
There is no way for us lowly civilians to verify the incapacitation or destruction of CIA servers. By definition, spook servers are not going to show up on global Net maps, nor is the CIA likely to put out a press release announcing that Q has shut down their Net operations. Neither would GCHQ nor MI-6, for that matter.
Q simply states these things as true, and in keeping with the religious nature of the Q-vian Movement, they take the whole thing on faith and crow about how wonderful this all is, despite the fact that it would seem a significant part of national security has been compromised.
Then there’s the issue of the satellites. Aye, there’s the rub.
Some Q-vians say that the satellites were literally destroyed. Apparently, they have no clue about orbital dynamics and the careful navigation required to keep things from bumping into each other “up there”. Nor do they seem to consider that disabled/destroyed satellites pose a lethal danger to humans and other assets on orbit. The reader may want to re-watch the film Gravity.
The Q-vians also seem not to realize that there are global networks of amateurs who spend unreasonable numbers of hours tracking and imaging spacecraft – especially spy satellites. We won’t even mention the foreign governments who also do this.
Refer to Q2008 to Q2021, from 5:30pm to 7:15pm 30 August 2018. Please ignore the lack of proof. The Q-vians certainly had no problem doing that.
If the reader is unaware, disabling a fleet of satellites, or worse, destroying them, would leave anywhere from tens to thousands of lethal projectiles in orbit that could easily destroy other valuable assets, or possibly pose a serious danger to manned flights centered around the space station. I doubt seriously even Q wants that kind of mess on its hands, regardless of the marketing value it would bring.
I will not attempt to address the presumed list of felonies Q says it committed by hacking/disabling/destroying government intelligence assets. Nor will I address the presumed act of war implied by attacking and disabling the intelligence network of another nation, but if anyone wanted to prosecute such acts, they are openly admitted..
At the risk of sounding crass and violating Family Hour rules, I’m going to call bullshit on this one.
Despite the obsessive nature of Q-vians listing “proofs” of Q’s “reality” and actions, they glossed right over these extraordinary claims as gospel truth without a single commentator that I’ve heard addressing the issues critically.
Taken on its face, though, Q has now claimed intimate knowledge of a murder/suicide/execution a priori. This may also imply having a hand in such a deed, though all of the evidence is completely circumstantial. We have no way to independently verify whether John McCain had cancer, nor do we have an official autopsy report stating cause of death. All of it is completely assumed by everyone at every level without some objective evidence.
We also have Q claiming to have disabled/destroyed the intelligence networks of both the US and the UK. Again, we have no independent, objective evidence of these claims, though the implications are rather serious, both from a national security and international diplomacy standpoint.
Assuming they are true for the sake of argument, then the Q Psy-Op has reached a new level, having gone from the dissemination of information implicating public figures in serious crimes, to actual real-world activities that have taken at least one life and endangered millions more.
In my opinion, this hardly seems like the activities of a benign entity trying to expose corruption in the Deep State swamp.
If McCain was suidided/executed, then this amounts to murder, since he did not receive a public trial and the evidence against him was not presented to us for evaluation and verdict. Any presumed trial was a secret military tribunal, and this worries the bejezuz out of me if no one else. Secret military tribunals are not an acceptable feature of American jurisprudence.
In addition, disabling/destroying intelligence assets bought and paid for with tacpayer dollars ostensibly spent to keep the populace safe and secure implies a lack of regard for the people Q claims to be helping, not to mention that an attack on the assets of a foreign nation constitutes a clear and present danger to that nation, and thus an act of war.
Thus, the Q-vians – if they were using logic as commanded by Q – are in a conundrum. If they reject the claims of Q in the absence of confirming evidence, then they risk calling their faith into question. On the other hand, if they accept these actions as a true, necessary and justifiable course of action, then they are uncritically complicit in the implied crimes.
This is a bit of a tar baby for the Q Community that none of them are directly addressing. Rather, they simply accept it on faith and move on to the next presumed event in their collective name.
To return to the issue of the Kavanaugh hearings mentioned above, it seems to me that all of these things tie in together.
The hearings began on a raucous note, with Democratic members of the committee doing everything in their power to disrupt and delay the proceedings almost from the moment the gavel struck. Then there were the protesters in the Peanut Gallery (an apt term) chanting and yelling incoherently to also try and delay the proceedings. This immediately made headlines all over the GeezerMedia. The various outlets were falling all over themselves to cast the disrupters in a heroic light, trying to cash in on the spectacle for election value.
Now, if I were Q/Trump and I needed to shut down the news cycle – or at least usurp it – I might produce an anonymous op-ed for the New York Times full of sensational claims of chaos in the White House. I might cast it as penned by a brave upper-level insider (maybe a cabinet member) and mention the 25th Amendement to get everyone chasing their tails.
And sure enough, the Kavanaugh hearings virtually vanished from the front pages and lead stories. Suddenly, there was no story but the anonymous op-ed.
As a bonus, I might later reveal that it was a planted scam just to punk the GeezerMedia and create a huge cloud of doubt over anything they said or published.
Classic psy-op, achieving multiple beneficial goals with one simple action – a multi-layered nuanced operation of incredible simplicity that elevated the White Hats, shot huge holes in the Black Hats, and ensured the selection of the chosen nominee and electoral victory at the polls, while silencing an adversarial media.
In any event, Q seems to have entered a new and dangerous phase in which it is now acting in the real world on real people and things. This is no longer an “educational” effort, but a true war in every sense of the word.
It is vital for the Q-vians to ask themselves critically whether they accept these premises on faith, or whether they will ask some serious and probing questions about the entity they are following so patriotically and blindly.
Whether empty claims or real, I am now moving solidly into the anti-Q camp on principle alone. Either Q has committed real acts that demand objective evidence in support, or Q is outright lying in order to garner support among its followers. In either case, I cannot justify or condone such things, as they are no better than the presumed actions of the Deep State actors Q claims to be fighting.
One cannot surrender one’s principles and ethics in order to fight an enemy that supposedly lacks such principles and ethics. Doing so puts both sides at fault without justification.
“For in that sleep of death what dreams may come, when we have shuffled off this mortal coil, must give us pause.”
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