And in this episode, we’re going to walk through what happened after he left the underground base.
Emery, welcome back.
Emery Smith: Thanks, Dave.
David: Let’s now talk through how your assignment with these autopsies ended. First of all, you had mentioned before that about every four months you got another security clearance. And I believe you said that you had stopped at A22.
Is that correct?
Emery: That’s correct.
David: Okay. How many cycles of this autopsy tour of duty, if you will, did you do? How long were you actually . . .
Emery: About 22. About 22 quarterly advancements.
Emery: I never failed to get an advancement every quarter. So it took about an average of 4½, 5 years.
I finished my active duty in 5.5 years.
David: Now, did you continue to do your cover job the whole time you worked down there?
Emery: Yeah, I stayed an additional two quarters, actually, after I got out of the military. And they know things started getting a little different down there because – I think I told you this once before – I started getting bodies that were pretty warm.
And I could tell that they were very recent by the rigor mortis that barely set in.
But after I finished my work with the United States Air Force, I decided to stay working in the underground labs of Sandia and Los Alamos.
David: Did that allow you to have more hours since you didn’t have a cover job any more?
Emery: Absolutely, . . .
Emery: . . . it sure did.
David: So tell me the difference between a shift that you would have had . . . Like, walk us through your typical day before you left the Air Force to after you left the Air Force.
Like, how many hours did you work? Where did you go? Just so we have a sense of that.
Emery: Yes, my work started at 5:30 AM at the Kirtland Air Force Base Hospital.
Emery: We worked till about 2:30 to 3:30 PM, and then I went into work at 7:00 PM at the underground location.
And I would stay there, usually, anywhere from 4~8 hours, and then just go home and repeat that anywhere from 5~7 days a week.
The active duty job at Kirtland Air Force Base, I only worked Monday through Friday, pulling emergency trauma call usually one weekend a month.
And during these times, by pulling call, I was not allowed to work in the underground bases because I was not allowed to have a beeper, and beepers don’t work down there.
David: So once you left the Air Force, what was your schedule like in the underground base?
Emery: It was great. I kept the same hours because I liked working evenings. I’m a night person, and I’m very productive at night.
So I’d go in around 5:00 PM and be out of there by 1:00 or 2:00 AM. Sometimes, I would have to stay longer. Sometimes, I had to spend the night there.
I started transitioning over from doing the harvesting and autopsy work and moving more in the direction of biologics and was part of their biological warfare division where they were making all sorts of . . . types of things to control viruses and to also deploy viruses around the world.
David: Well, certainly in terms of known international agreements like the Geneva Convention, we’re not supposed to be using conventional chemical weapons or biological weapons.
David: But this clearly sounds like they didn’t care about that.
Emery: Yeah, no, it was a total disregard for humanity. And they were trying to figure out how to make a virus that was very specific to your lineage.
So . . . And they would deploy these via using contrails with the jets. You know, you heard about these conspiracy theories.
And that’s one way they would do it, was just to spray a city. And let’s say they could get the lineage DNA from a specific ethnic race maybe. And if you had that genetic code in you, it would wipe out all that race, all that part of the human race.
David: Well, clearly nothing like that’s actually been done because we’re all still here.
David: But they were trying to find things like this?
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