by Staff Writer, March 14th, 2018
I’ve been leaning on you for a decade to do this, and you finally have. So, thank you, Emery. And thank you on behalf of all people in the world who want freedom and Full Disclosure.
Emery Smith: Oh, thanks for having me, Dave.
David: We were actually driving in the car, and we were talking about the bodies that you’d autopsied, but then you told me something in the car that I think sheds some deeper light on your experience.
And I’d like us to go into that part now, even though I think it’s farther along in your career.
But it helps to establish a fundamental truth, which is that insiders, typically, when you get a real one, they have lots of different, cool things that they’ve done.
So tell us about the Vatican.
Emery: Oh, the Vatican. Yes, yes.
So a private organization went to the DoD [US Department of Defense] and the mil [military] labs I was working at, and they needed some technicians and some scientists to go to the Vatican to look at their archives, because they know that they had some information on a craft that was taken in New Mexico.
David: So there had been a UFO . . .
Emery: That was shot down.
David: And it was a recent one.
Emery: Yes, very recent. And they took this craft . . .
David: Why would they shoot it down? Was it hostile? Did it do anything bad?
Emery: No, no, no, not at all.
Emery: No, it just got too close to some of the weapons up there . . .
David: Oh! Okay.
Emery: . . . and from what I heard, from the debriefing.
And I don’t know where it crashed. I just know where it was at.
David: Do we know anything about what this craft looked like or what kind of occupants they found inside?
Emery: No, there were no occupants that was mentioned, but the craft did look like a tetrahedron.
The best way I could put it is: make a tetrahedron out of PVC pipes.
Emery: Yep. And about eight feet in diameter.
Emery: Yeah, and it has a light in the middle of it.
David: And this was like a robotic drone?
Emery: It always stays centered. Ah, it could have been. But then again, a lot of these craft are conscious, actually.
Emery: And it can . . . Every now and then, it’ll strobe. And then it’ll fill up the spaces so you can’t see through it.
David: What will fill up spaces?
Emery: Like, you know, I just said it was an empty tetrahedron, like made out of PVC pipe?
Emery: So you could see through it, and you could see the light in the middle.
Emery: Uh-huh. Yeah.
David: What color was the orb of light? Do we know?
Emery: It was blue, but it was very small, like probably three inches in diameter.
David: And the tetrahedron itself was white?
Emery: It was . . . The outside of it was like if you made one with PVC pipe and it was pure white, and it was seamless.
Emery: And if you got too close to it, it would actually fill in a space of . . . that you could not see into it.
David: But I still don’t know if I understand.
Emery: Okay. So if you have an empty tetrahedron that you can see through, and we’re only talking about the outside lines, okay?
Emery: So you could see through it, and you can see this ball.
Emery: And if you get too close to it, it’ll actually go solid.
David: This tetrahedron goes solid?
David: And then what does it look like?
Emery: It’s just white. It’s just white.
Emery: Yeah, pure white.
David: So this appears to have been some kind of drone. There were no occupants in it.
Emery: There were no occupants, but it doesn’t mean . . . because that white light could be some sort of consciousness.
David: Or a being. Right.
Emery: Or a being.
Emery: So you cannot . . . Any time you see light, you have to think being first and then go from there.
David: So you’re saying, if I’m getting this right, that the Department of Defense had this craft, or whatever it is, get shot down in New Mexico.
And they’re drawing a blank as to what it is or where it came from.
Emery: Yeah. I don’t know where it was shot down. I just know it was stored in New Mexico, . . .
Emery: . . . because that’s where I was at. But it was a first of its kind, so they had . . .
David: They have a very robust idea of what normally would crash, correct?
David: They have an extensive catalog?
Emery: They have an extensive collection, I will say.
David: Yeah, ha, ha. Okay. But this skewed the charts in some way.
Emery: Yes. Yes, it gave off different, I guess, frequencies or something that they were amazed about. And it didn’t show any aggression or whatever after it was shot down.
And it was still obviously operational.
David: And you say that this craft was in the category where it appears that the material itself is a life form somehow?
Emery: Well, I don’t know about THAT, because I wasn’t in on that part. All I know is that ball on the inside had energy.
Emery: So energy and light always could mean life.
David: Okay. So what did they decide to do about this craft? If they don’t know what it is, they don’t know where it came from, what kind of resources can they draw upon at that point?
Emery: Well, what they do is they form a team, and they do a big background check around the world, because there’s other catalogs in other countries and other religions.
And, of course, the Vatican has always been a huge database. It has a huge archive of many things: artifacts and things they have found from space and have collected over many, many, many, many years.
And they have an underground base under the Vatican.
So two scientists and myself were deployed to that area to the Vatican to an undisclosed location in the Vatican. And we took an elevator down about seven or eight floors.
Emery: And that’s kind of how it all started. We got permission from the Vatican. They set it all up.
We’re just contractors going there to collect any type of information that would be similar to this device.
David: So is it common that there is interagency cooperation?
Emery: Usually for exchange for favors.
David: Now, you are an Air Force veteran, right?
David: And we’ve often heard from various insiders that there’s like an Air Force wing of the military-industrial complex and a Navy wing. They kind of broke off after World War II . . .
Emery: That’s true.
David: And they’ve grown into these totally separate industrial complexes.
Emery: That’s very true.
David: So would you estimate that most of your experience is in the Air Force side, because that’s where you started, or . . .
Emery: Yeah, for this particular thing, I would say so, but they still work together when they have questions.
Emery: They’re not banging heads.
Emery: But they do like to keep their secrets together, because the more they can show the government, the more money they can get at the end of the year.
So if I have some really cool things that I’ve collected this year for this corporation, this mil lab or Air Force mil lab, then we get more money.
And so they don’t always share the secrets of what they’re doing, but they do always work together to figure out things that they can’t figure out. They work always . . . They’re very compliant with that.
David: So I think the military budget, even on-the-books military budget, recently was like in the neighborhood of $864 billion – the ridiculous $700 toilet seats and that kind of thing, and the little nuts that cost $65.
So the idea being that the military budget has a lot of room in it for off-balance sheet expenditures.
Emery: That is correct. You know, you could get a toilet seat for $700. And they WILL go to Home Depot and buy it for $2.00. And they’ll buy 2,000 of them. And then the rest of that money goes where?
David: Well, apparently, you guys are fighting over it is what you’re telling me now. It’s like a healthy . . .
Emery: It is a competition.
Emery: But from my experience, I mean, and I’m not one of the executives there by far or their financial advisers, but just from what I heard from some of the higher upper-class people in there that they usually always get about the same.
Emery: So it’s not this . . . They’re not beating them by billions of dollars.
Emery: And it is actually not billions, it’s trillions.
David: Right, when you encounter all the other ways that money is being generated.
David: So if we have this craft that comes down, and they don’t know what it is, just in a very general sense, if you can speculate – and I understand you might not have definitive knowledge, but I’d like your speculations. It’s going to be probably better than mine.
How often do you think this kind of stuff is happening?
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