Sargent Clifford Stone is an exceptional case within the annals of secret space program history due to the unique nature of his organic contact with extraterrestrial beings. From a very early age, Stone began to have contact with a group of extraterrestrials he calls “visitors.” This contact occurred through an entity he initially thought was an imaginary friend but later discovered there was something else taking place. Somehow the military industrial complex learned Stone was having ongoing contact with otherworldly beings and began to watch him closely.
As a young man, Stone was keen to join the armed service so he could patriotically serve his country. In 1968, shortly after he graduated high school, while the Vietnam war raged, he was contacted by the draft board in his area and told to report to the Armed Forces Entrance Examination Station in Ashland, Kentucky. Stone was examined last at the request of the Captain and Doctor, who knew he had medical issues and suggested he tour the DC area to avoid disqualification.
Upon his return, he was put through the usual battery of physical and mental evaluations and passed most with ease, save the medical portion. Stone had an undisclosed medical condition that the Army concluded was severe enough to disqualify him. He was told as much at the time, but Stone didn’t take no for an answer.
He appealed to the Captain and said that a lot of people drafted into the Army didn’t want to go, especially since the Vietnam War was claiming a lot of American lives at the time. Those who were unwilling to serve need not die if he could enlist in their place, he said. The Captain informed Stone that he could push his application through, but that he needed to avoid detection for 179 days. On the 180th day, Stone would be “locked in” and the Army will acknowledge his medical condition, but still allow him to serve. Stone subsequently entered the service and passed through the 180-day trial period.
Shortly after his arrival in Fort Jackson, South Carolina, he began his training as a typist. At one point, while he cleaned up an intelligence section of the headquarters building there, a military man from Washington DC approached him. He started a conversation with Stone and informally asked him what he thought about UFOs. Stone responded by saying he hadn’t given it much thought, to which the man said he did believe in UFOs and proceeded to show Stone several top secret documents. Stone felt uncomfortable because he lacked the proper clearances and said as much to his new friend. The man answered and said everything showed to Stone was authorized, suggesting that the whole encounter was some covert evaluation or recruitment exercise.
Stone believes that the military discovered he had ongoing contact with “visitors” and wanted to recruit him into a particular ultra-secret branch of the service that required civilian assets. Individuals receiving contact with extraterrestrials since childhood have a rare skill set for what Stone calls interfacing—a form of telepathic communication. This method of communication is so foreign to what the average person can comprehend that secret space programs had to go to great lengths to find and recruit civilians with these abilities. Stone states that his work involved interfacing with entities at extraterrestrial crash sites or those detained by the military for various reasons. Non-terrestrials that are highly telepathic in nature can only initiate contact with an individual who has prerequisite levels of skill, according to Stone.
To find and recruit civilians capable of handling the psychological impact of extraterrestrial contact and also possess the required interfacing skill was no easy task. Stone shares that a very small population of people are eligible for such a position, but due to the nature of the role, forced recruitment wasn’t as effective, and therefore, not possible—at least during his time in the programs. Interfacers needed to buy-in to the interfacing experience entirely, and as such, the military devised methods of slowly grooming recruits to participate willingly. Enticing these individuals ranged from appealing to their sense of patriotism to outright payoffs or financial compensation. When Stone left the service, he was one of only seven interfacers, suggesting that the available store of individuals for this task was very small indeed.
Stone was recruited into the 36 Civil Affairs Company of the 96 Civil Affairs Group at Fort Lee, Virginia, and received specialized training in communication systems and protocols. In February of 1969, while attending his training, he was shown a film that presented the capabilities of advanced top secret satellite reconnaissance systems in orbit some 500 miles above the surface of the Earth. It showed a series of images beginning at a far off vantage point of the North American continent, with each successive image focusing on a single location on the ground. The magnification of this satellite was so high that by the end of the picture presentation, Stone could see the headline of a newspaper a man sitting on a bench in Central Park New York was holding. Stone discovered later in his research that the National Reconnaissance Office had these satellites in place for some time, most likely well before this presentation occurred.
After completing his training, he met a man he referred to as Jack, who worked for the US Army Security Agency, as well as the National Security Agency (NSA). Stones ticket back to his unit in Fort Lee, Virgina, had somehow been stolen, and Jack offered to drive him back. Again, a strange conversation ensued wherein the NSA man asked Stone about UFOs and wondered if he believed in them or had seen one. Stone said he had seen strange objects in his time but kept them quiet, to which his driver came back and stated that it is OK to talk to him as they were “friends.”
Several weeks later, Stone receives a phone call from Jack who suggested that Stone come to Washington DC for a holiday and tour of the Pentagon. Jack sent a staff car to Stone’s base to collect him. Stone is taken to Jack’s office at the NSA headquarters only to discover that he is not there. Another man greeted Stone and asked if he wanted to tour the Pentagon while they wait, to which Stone agreed. This man provided Stone a clearance badge that granted him access to certain classified sections of the facility.
After he had descended an unknown distance, they arrived in a small room that opened up to a monorail system in the basement of the Pentagon, with a single bullet-shaped car in view. The man told Stone that the tram system is an interconnected set of tunnels or tubes that use electromagnetic propulsion to move a vehicle along the track, which Stone had never seen before. After they had traversed an unknown distance, they arrived at a long corridor with no doors or openings on either side. Stone was a bit confused by what he saw, as the hallway was very long and ended abruptly with no discernable purpose; it seemed like a corridor that didn’t lead anywhere. As they walked, his escort told Stone “a lot of things aren’t the way they seem.”
The man then referred to the same hallway both of them were walking through at the time, implying that “it wasn’t what it seemed.” The man tapped on the wall, and said: “solid wall, right?” And before Stone could respond, the man pushed him into what looked like a solid wall. As Stone recovered from this jolt, he realized that he was on the other side of the wall in another room. At the other end of the chamber was a typical Grey extraterrestrial that sat on the far side of a table with two men in dark suits standing on either side. After taking stock of where he was, Stone began to feel a “buzz saw” sensation in his head, and quickly lost consciousness, and fell to the floor.
Stone later awoke to find himself back in Jack’s office and was promptly told nothing happened; he hadn’t actually left, and that he must have dreamt the whole encounter. He believed that the event was a conditioning or training exercise specifically designed to show him that there were things people weren’t supposed to believe in but were actually real and that the military knew of extraterrestrials but didn’t want the public to know. That the need for secrecy was great, and part of Stone’s duty to his country was to keep these things quiet.
Later in Stone’s military career, he had another initiation into the secretive world of UFO crash retrievals. During a field training exercise at Fort Indiantown Gap, he was manning the communication switchboard in the back of an Army truck, known colloquially as a Deuce and a Half or a 2.5-ton standard issue carbo truck. After performing the usual training scenarios, at around midnight, Stone’s unit got word of an alleged downed aircraft that fell in the Indian Reservation at Indiantown Gap. They were dispatched to the location as a backup unit, entering under the cover of night in blackout dry form, meaning; the truck convoy used no artificial lighting.
Stone’s unit arrived to find a UFO crash site, lit by powerful overhead lights. After greeting the military first responders on the scene they told Stone that the object was an experimental aircraft design. Stone didn’t think to question the explanation and was unsure of what he was seeing. The Colonel in charged asked Stone if he had a Geiger counter for measuring radiation and requested Stone to take readings of the downed craft, which he was to communicate back as he walked.
Stone grabbed his APD 27 Geiger counter and began walking in the direction of the saucer, providing radiation readings as he went. As he walked, the radiation levels were within safe ranges, but he could not see one side of the craft. When Stone got close enough to see the other side of the UFO, he was shocked by what he saw. He came upon a little Grey ET about three to four feet in height that had spilled out of the craft’s hatch and was clearly dead. As Stone recalled this memory, he was overwhelmed by emotions and said he felt intense sensations as a result of what he saw. He called out to the unit and asked for an officer to approach. The Colonel instead responded by asking Stone to describe what he was seeing. Stone eventually said, “it’s not from this world, you know what I am seeing!” He yelled out in frustration, “Why the hell are we lying? Why are we telling people that these things aren’t happening?”
The Colonel asked him to come back to the unit, at which point Stone confronted the commanding officer demanding to know why they were there and expressed concern about other Greys potentially injured inside the downed craft. The Colonel told Stone to go to his Comms station in the truck, which he did.
The next day, the object was placed on a flatbed truck and moved to a secret location, never seen again by Stone. He was told it was an unmanned experimental craft, apparently a cover story. Stone adds that for interfacers like him, these encounters are very intense as feelings and images come through the interface experience.
Corey Goode and David Wilcock review Stone’s testimony and offer comment.
They both discuss how Stone’s testimony has all the hallmarks of authenticity, such as truthful body language, extraneous details, and consistency. Instead of sharing a narrative focused only on the points of interest, Stone offers more detail than is needed, in a way that typically happens during memory recall. His eyes remain fixed and centered as points are remembered, without diverting to the right side of the body usually associated with the right brain and creative centers used to fabricate information. Also, Stone has not gained monetarily from whistleblowing, and Wilcock claims that Stone’s son was killed in connection with his outing.
Goode states that the kind of abilities Stone has are similar to the Intuitive Empaths in the secret space program. Goode was trained to interface with extraterrestrials and the like during his time with the program as well, confirming that during this era of development, training these kinds of abilities was not possible. As a result, and in confirmation of Stone’s testimony, Goode shares that they would have needed to recruit individuals out of the civilian sector, as Stone said.
Similar to Goode’s experiences, Stone was a so-called targeted individual, someone that the military industrial complex was actively monitoring because they knew he had extraterrestrial contact at an early age. Goode adds that the military has long had the ability to track extraterrestrial spacecraft and contacts so as to find and groom these people into the program. Part of this process could involve the abduction of individuals after they make initial contact with extraterrestrials, to determine the nature and content of what took place.
Goode and Wilcock suspect that the peculiar nature of Stone’s recruitment into the Army, despite his medical disqualifications, as well as the strange conversations with various figures regarding UFOs, was part of his grooming and preparation for special service. Stone’s encounter in Washington DC with the grey under the Pentagon was most likely a test to determine how he handled the strange nature of the program, and if he could be trusted to keep a secret. The program probably manufactured most of his supposedly friendly encounters with UFO-wise military personnel in an effort to prepare him for his final initiation into secret government projects.
Goode describes that during an interfacing or telepathic communication experience, words and phrases are not used to transmit information. Instead, all manner of subjective sensations is available, such as smells, images, sounds, and feelings. Part of an interfacers job is to learn how to translate these non-verbal signals into a communication stream with the skills needed to ensure clear communication takes place. But this exchange is unlike a vocal or written language process.
The NRO satellite technology shown to Stone is just one of the many advancements developed by the programs, according to Goode. Handlers probably showed this technology to Stone as a test to determine if he was able to keep it secret, along with other elements of his early ventures with secret military projects.
As Goode states during his analysis, the early SSP used organic skill sets (for lack of a better term) emerging within the civilian population. The need for individuals who were capable of communicating telepathically with beings who use non-verbal communication techniques was probably great. But there are setbacks involved.
Telepathic vs. Linguistic Communication
Note: I have studied the following psychological concepts in depth for most of my life, but lack background knowledge used by professionals in this field. As such, I will do my best to describe things in accepted scientific terms and only rely on inventions of articulation when needed. The conceptual framework or basis is comparable, however.
The way the mind organizes experiences and ideas are universally dependent on the syntax of our use of language. The formative years of development solidify what are called models within the psyche that shape how we conceptualize and process information. These models provide a framework for the mind to generate a subjective experience that is the lens through which we experience reality.
Language, in particular, is an abstraction concerning the raw data of experience, creating a collection of metaphysical structures within the mind that require mental energy to maintain. That is to say, the experience of a thing and the verbal expression of it are two different things. Our description of memory is a facsimile that can be likened to a “thumbnail” or partial image of the more complete and replete experience. Direct experience or raw cognition is the unfiltered data stream or “first order impression” of the sensory data from the central nervous system (material body), emotional data and intellectual insights and ideas. All these things combine to form a holistic image or impression, what we refer to as a memory. This memory contains not only a physical description of what happened but also how we felt during the time, as well as any conclusions or meanings we gleaned from the experience.
By focusing on raw experience, the process of creating a memory (a holistic image impression) unfolds as follows. The hindbrain or reptilian brain (the R Complex) absorbs sensory data and funnels it up through the brain stem for processing. The energetic or astral body receives emotional data in a precognitive fashion via the heart-brain, which has been well documented by Heartmath and other researchers. This metaphysical, emotional data is translated into a broth of neurotransmitters produced in the midbrain, mammalian brain or limbic system, which is a physical or material version of the metaphysical emotion. As an example, Endorphins is a neurotransmitter responsible for the physical sensation of pleasure and happiness.
The three data streams (physical, emotional, and intellectual) are recorded into consciousness as a single memory or a first order readout of whatever was experienced. The process of describing an experience using language require that it be broken up into bite-sized chunks or threads wherein a single idea or concept can be shared. For example, observing a sunrise is an experience with a seemingly infinite number of observational data points, not to mention emotional sensations and intuitive impressions. Simply describing what the Sun looked like as it rose would require a great deal of descriptive languages, such as the color of the sky, if there were clouds, and so on. And even then, due to the subjective nature of language meanings, the actual image rendered in another person’s mind may be completely different, even though the same general elements are present.
Also, an experience itself is holistic in nature—the color of the sky can’t really be divorced from other aspects of the sunset scene. And yet, we have to start somewhere when describing our experiences—we can’t download information to another all at once. As a result, this means that articulation via language of any image within the mind is always a left brain process of dissection followed by a right brain process of creation. We break up our experiences into bite-sized chunks and then assemble these into strings of words and phrases that can be decoded by others for meaning. The most we can hope for is to describe a hazy impression of one element at a time. Imagine describing a three-dimensional object by taking a series of photographs around it, which another person can look at to get an impression of what it might be. All of this is what is required to translate our raw experiences into forms of communication.
Articulating experience using language forces a homogenization of the first order information into distortions much like the way a video homogenizes color gradients into single planes. A progressive distortion of experience occurs as a result of this modality of communication, leading to an ever increasing level of abstract and convoluted thought. Consider that watching a sunrise may only take 60 seconds but describing it to someone using words could take volumes of text if we want to clearly and completely communicate what happened. And the amount of mental energy and programming required to communicate in this way is incredibly draining on the psyche when compared to telepathic forms of communication.
According to Goode, Stone, and many others who discuss telepathic races and contacts, entities exchange first order information or holistic image impressions of experience as a language itself. For human beings, we rely on meaningless symbols (words) to associate concepts to that can then be used to assemble facsimiles of experience for communication purposes. The phrase “the Sun is yellow” is an assembly of individual word symbols, combined in a contextual framework so as to describe one facet of an experience. Each line of text or dialog adds one more layer detail into a receiving person’s mind.
Presumably, telepathic forms of communication are more pictorial in nature, based on complete images and impressions closer to direct sensory data or experience itself. Validation of this premise comes via the testimony of Stone and Goode who both state that interfacing with telepathic beings requires one to use subjective experience itself as a form of language. That is to say, describing a sunrise to someone using telepathic means only requires sending an image of it into another person’s mind. This image would be much more complete and detailed than a linguistic version, requiring much less abstraction and effort over time to transmit. Attempting to memorize a random string of words is harder than assembling them into a story. Therefore, the more efficient we are in transmitting ideas to other minds (communication) the more energy is left to expand consciousness into other areas. In this way linguistic communication is like the snail mail of articulation, yes we can get the job done, but it takes a lot of energy.
Given that telepathic species rely on this direct image transference process, they probably conceptualize in a different way than we do and most likely express ideas as holistic images instead of only the logical abstractions used in linguistics. Consider mathematics, which although it is a powerful tool for discerning reality, is so abstract most people can’t comprehend it fully. But holistic images that contain, physical, emotional and intellectual data are unified by nature (not able to be divorced), and as such, miscommunication is probably much less common in telepathic species. If true, this could suggest that ancient megalithic cultures—who often had a mythos of an extraterrestrial nature—were more telepathic than modern humans today.
Within the framework of Stone and Goode’s testimony, these points are important for understanding why the programs required individuals with a history of telepathic contact. The work of psychologists such as Joseph Chilton Pearce, Michael Mendizza, and Bruce Lipton suggests that the human organism is preprogrammed or conditioned for holistic thought. Children absorb and process information holistically at a very early age, and are trained to think abstractly via the enculturation process, specifically about the use and development of language. But if one makes contact with a telepathic species early enough, holistic thinking and image processing can advance alongside the acquisition of linguistics, enabling such individuals to interface with telepathic species.
Another hindrance to contemporary humanity and the use of telepathic communication is the destruction of the imagination, which at an early age is innately powerful. However, imaging devices, such as televisions, smartphones, computers, video games, and so on, replace internal imaginative processes with external images, eventually atrophying the mental processes responsible for creating coherent and definite mental images. As a result, the average adult possesses almost no ability to imagine, let alone, form coherent image streams clear enough for telepathic species to comprehend.
Thus, in our quest to unlock telepathic abilities, we may discover that our reliance on technology for imagination and conceptualization holds us back. If the capacity to transmit mental images to others manifested in humanity overnight, most of us would lack the mental discipline needed to form complete picture-streams that others could understand. We would most likely use these powers to transmit words and phrases instead of holistic images, a kind of mental linguistics, with the same limitations as verbal or written forms. But over time, we could eventually use the more efficient holistic images, if we slowly abandoned our dependencies on imaging technology.
Another point to consider regarding telepathic contact is that people can and do experience it despite the aforementioned set backs. The form this contact takes seems to vary from direct images and impressions (like what longstanding telepathic species employ) to verbal messages or communications, such as channeling.
Additionally, the use of artificial telepathy like Voice-to-Skull devices as well as nefarious telepathic species who refuse to acknowledge the prime directive of honoring free will—so to speak—also seem to be a factor. In these cases, the information received by an individual may feel like it is coming from their inner voice or even some higher intelligence, like an angel. The form of these telepathic communications also varies in the same ways mentioned above (i.e. holistic image transmission or verbal messages). All of this makes discerning telepathic contact from normal thoughts streams and insights difficult. However, the content of a communication—what it has to say—is where our powers of discernment are the most effective in judging if something is true or not, and if it is practical for us to integrate into our belief system and worldview. As always, discernment is advised.
Before the development of advanced mental interfacing training, like what Goode described in a previous episode, it is hard to find individuals in society capable of cognizing experience in a way that made telepathic contact possible. And as was stated earlier, children have an innate ability to cognize the world in visual impressions and holistically integrated images—wherein, a memory contains all sensory and emotional data in a singular form. As we learn a language and begin to enculturate, abstract ways of thinking distort and eventually retard this holistic imaging ability. However, it appears that contact with extraterrestrial beings at an early age prevents this retardation process from taking place.
As an aside, I suspect that autistic children are resistant to this enculturation effect, and tend to develop thought patterns which are more holistic in nature, making communication with “normal humans” difficult.
Therefore, if children possess an innate ability to think and cognize information holistically, this would make them ideal candidates for extraterrestrial interfacing. Stone’s contact with extraterrestrials (described in more detail in his Bio) suggests that telepathic beings approached him from a very early age. At one point they told him that he was the subject of a cultural study of their race and that this group who was observing him would do so for the rest of his life, adding significantly to their knowledge of humanity. These experiences were clearly of immense importance to the early SSPs, who did not possess, or possibly understand, the methods by which individuals interface with telepathic beings.
For Goode, he learned his Intuitive Empath skills later on in the SSPs development. Although, even he states that some level of innate ability must be present for the training to proceed. In addition, Goode reported that he and his fellow trainee’s began their education at an early age, suggesting that the programs discovered this innate holistic imaging ability in certain children. Through the use of visualization training and mind enhancement, graduates interfacing capabilities were improved such that they could communicate with extraterrestrials telepathically. In other words, later SSPs did not have to rely so heavily on the small population of individuals who were experiencing ongoing extraterrestrial contact, although Goode intimates that this was still a factor for recruitment.
The so-called Military Abductions program (MILAB), according to several alleged insiders, frequently targets individuals contacted by extraterrestrials, grooming them to become assets for one project or another. Stone’s testimony is a case study of this recruitment process.
Recruitment of Stone
Stone’s testimony regarding his early experiences and recruitment suggests that these programs were already developing advanced psychological manipulation techniques. Litmus tests or gateway examinations were almost certainly manufactured by Stone’s handlers to determine his abilities and take stock of his development. By this I mean, a set of experiences was engineered for him in such a way as to test Stone’s reactions to certain situations.
For example, the military officer who showed him classified documents did not reveal to Stone that he was authorized to see them. Stone responded to the situation by saying he did not possess the proper clearances and did not want to violate national security. This response would indicate to his handlers that Stone had a genuine interest in following orders and doing what he was told, despite any moral objections—which is an essential part of any compartmentalized project dealing with morally ambiguous situations. A requirement of more advanced service in the programs would have been to determine if Stone could keep a secret, which this case provided a test for.
The encounter with the Grey in the basement of the Pentagon also seemed to be part of his conditioning and testing. Exposure to things not typically encountered in life, such as holographic walls, was a test of his psychological resistance. Some individuals lack the personal resolve to accept something that seems impossible or unbelievable, resulting in a mental break. Exposing Stone to the Grey in the way they did ensured the potential maximum psychological trauma, which was a Rubicon methodology—a test that either makes or breaks him. Stone would either handle the experience well, and accept what was offered without causing a break, or he would suffer extreme trauma and dissociate. In the latter case, Stone could have “gone crazy” and began trying to tell the public about what he saw, at which point, the program would have to deal with him—most likely by memory wiping or even assassination. But Stone showed resolve and adaptation to disturbing encounters, making him a viable candidate for this kind of service.
As an aside, I suspect that the use of psychedelics and related forms of stimulation in the programs are to test how much novelty can be assimilated by an individual. Experiences that are too new can often be jarring and traumatic but through mystical encounters—for which psychedelics provide a comparable experience—can increase one’s capacity to process new things, to the point where even the most wildly fantastic experiences can be readily accepted and integrated.
Emotional Intensity of Stone’s Testimony
The nature of Stone’s early extraterrestrial contact seems to have established a deep psychological and social bonds with his visitors. Described in his bio, Stone shares that as a child, he saw an imaginary friend who he at first thought was just another boy. He later discovered after accidentally killing a small bird that the being was not human after all, at which point it revealed himself to Stone in a careful way. Stone says he was horrified by this discovery at first, but after more transparent contact had continued, this being explained his races true intentions of observation and cultural study.
The nature of this contact, as was described earlier, was primarily telepathic. The being was able to communicate images, sensations, and feelings that were most likely incredibly intense and stimulating. His parental and other human interactions were dull by comparison, establishing a profound set of foundational experiences for telepathic contact early in life. Thus, he most likely formed models for empathy due to these otherworldly beings more so than his normal human interactions. As a result, the fraternal nature of their friendship, and tenderness felt, stayed with him throughout his life. Consider that the bonds of a child with those they love, especially those who maintain a pure and loving relationship with the child, are incredibly strong.
As a result of these foundational interactions, a kind of deep reverence and love for extraterrestrials developed. When encountering the downed spacecraft at Indiantown Gap, Stone presumably experienced a deep sense of empathy, not only from the interface itself but also due to his pre-existing set of empathic experiences with his earlier visitors. This empathic experience is most likely why, some 60 years later, in recalling these memories he still feels an upwelling of strong emotions. He felt deep empathy and sadness for the dead Grey he says during his training mission as a comms officer, who probably reminded him of his earlier contact experiences as a child.
Stone’s testimony is important to consider for several reasons. It supplies corroboration to accounts provided by Goode and others, especially about so-called MILABs or military abduction programs. While MILABs are hardly a new concept in the archives of Ufology, the possible motives for carrying out abductions of individuals experiencing extraterrestrial contact remains elusive. If Stone’s testimony is true, it suggests that one possible motivation is the recruitment of Intuitive Empaths for use in secret space programs.
Stone’s testimony also offers a description of the limitations of SSPs. In this case that making contact with extraterrestrial groups, largely dependent on telepathic communication, was a serious issue within the programs. So much so, that they were willing to recruit and groom civilians in ways that were kinder than some of the more invasive mind control techniques used in other areas.
Ancient Cabal Enslavement Methods Stunted Our Capacity for Telepathic Contact
Goode described in a previous episode that the Cabal had used occulted means of manipulating humanity and those within their ranks for generations, reaching far back into history. Several works proffer histories of humanity that claim we possessed telepathic abilities in times of old. The Christian Bible offers one account that lends credence to this notion, also echoed by other works. During the fall of Babylon, as part of God’s wrath, he confounded the one language of the people who dared to build a tower to heaven.
Here is a quote from Genesis 11:1-4 which reads:
And the whole earth was of one language, and of one speech. And it came to pass, as they journeyed from the east, that they found a plain in the land of Shinar; and they dwelt there. And they said one to another, Go to, let us make brick, and burn them thoroughly. And they had brick for stone, and slime had they for morter. And they said, Go to, let us build us a city and a tower, whose top may reach unto heaven; and let us make us a name, lest we be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth.
To be clear, this quote merely indicates an element within our collective mythos describing a time when humanity had one language.
We can allegorically interpret this message as follows. Through the construction of a city and tower (a divorce from nature) along with the creation of a “name” (an abstract linguistic concept), these people were eventually scattered about the Earth and their language was broken into many different tongues. Perhaps this story is a reference to megalithic cultures, like the Egyptians, Olmecs, Sumerians, and so on. These civilizations used pictorial writing methods, suggesting more holistic thought, and were also more prolific in that they spread all over the planet. Several researchers have suggested that the glaring similarities between these cultures lead one to conclude that they came from a singular global civilization, the famed Atlantean civilization.
In one such description of Atlantis, supplied by the book Children of the Law of One and the Lost Teachings of Atlantis, thousands of years ago there was a global civilization of highly advanced human beings, divided into two general philosophies. One group, known as the Sons of Belial, wanted to enslave their fellow human beings, forming an elite priesthood who hid knowledge from the masses so as to manipulate them. This group needed to create more and more separation from their fellow human beings so as to confuse them more efficiently. A second group, known as the Children of the Law of One, sought to restore the human family and its proper place in the cosmos at large. We are told in the book that the first group won out and eventually were successful in dividing the people amongst themselves. In the process, we lost the capacity to communicate telepathically, along with a host of other problems that plague humanity to this day.
While proving this history remains elusive, its conceptual elements can be used to understand the price that was paid for installing programs of separation in humanity so long ago. The Sons of Belial can be thought of as the forefathers of the SSP, who in their foolish desires for power ensured that later generations ability to communicate with extraterrestrials were greatly reduced. And now, eons later, the Cabal have lost the capacity to make direct contact with their so-called extraterrestrial gods.
Stone’s testimony offers insight into the seemingly strange nature of the secret space programs and their activities. Often only the most matter of fact elements are discussed, such as human beings making contact with extraterrestrials via fantastic means. But these things can also lend insight into the truths of our existence and potentials as evolving souls within a universe founded on consciousness.
Stone’s accounts also detail limitations of the early secret space programs in their capacity to communicate with extraterrestrials. Often these secretive groups are attributed with seemingly all powerful abilities, but in truth, we learned that they do have their constraints.
And we also learned why the use of some forms of technology (mainly imaging systems such as television and computers), while providing us comforts and conveniences, hinder consciousness and its abilities instead of enhancing it. The more gadgetry we invent, the less we need to use and master our consciousness. And when considering the AI threat mentioned by Goode in the past, it suggests that the last 100 years of so-called technological innovation could be a preamble to a technocratic transhumanist age of enslavement. Wherein the potential for organic imagination and enhancement of consciousness would be almost impossible due to an ever-present white noise of technology buzzing in the background. Consider how difficult it is to concentrate and focus in our world today, where we are constantly being bombarded with distractions in society.
Thankfully, the truth once received pushes the limits of what we consider to be possible. If we can imagine a world free of nefarious groups, we are one step closer to making it a reality. As such, spending time now to develop our abilities to think holistically and imagine clearly are skills that can be used for empowerment in all respects, not just for telepathic communication.
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Overview of Corey Goode, the Secret Space Program Alliance, and the Sphere Being Alliance:
Corey Goode is a Secret Space Program (SSP) insider and whistleblower that began disclosing information in 2009 under the pseudonym GoodETxSG. In 2014, he started revealing a great deal more information in an effort to prepare humanity for what he calls data dumps, set to occur at an opportune moment in the future. Much of the information he provides comes from Smart Glass Pads, iPad-like devices supplied to SSP personnel for information dissemination purposes. This will be a groundbreaking event, revealing the totality of Earth’s history and the activities of the Cabal which will ultimately lead to a truth and reconciliation style tribunal to hold criminal elements accountable for wrongdoing. Additionally, the SSP Alliance intends on releasing all of the hidden technology to the people in preparation for a Star Trek-type golden age civilization.
According to Goode, the Cabal or the secret Earth government and their syndicates (as termed by the SSP Alliance) have enslaved humanity under a false paradigm of a technological advancement, while secretly developing incredible technology (a Star Trek level of advancement) used to colonize the solar system and beyond, engaging in trade with thousands of extraterrestrial races.
Space programs have been developed in secret all throughout Earth’s history, and in many cases, groups broke away from the main culture forming what is called a Breakaway Civilization. Some of these civilizations have existed in secret, on Earth and beyond for, thousands of years. The Agartha Network is one such group that claims to be the original human race. It was this group in addition to the Draco Alliance, that made contact with a secret German space program in the early 20th Century.
In modern times, the Germans were the most advanced of the SSP groups, beginning their efforts in earnest during the early 1920’s and 30’s. The Americans were also developing a SSP, but were much further behind in technological advances. Later, the American SSPs were infiltrated and taken over by the Germans after the end of World War II. It was after this forced merger that the SSP, under the direction of the Interplanetary Corporate Conglomerate (ICC), expanded into the solar system and beyond, setting up dozens of bases and mining facilities chiefly using slave labor.
In the early 1990’s, a faction within the SSP known as Solar Warden slowly began to go against the ICC, allying with a group of highly evolved extraterrestrials known as the Sphere Being Alliance in 2012. Since then, more factions have joined the alliance which is actively working to free humanity on Earth and beyond, known as the SSP Alliance. Despite their good intentions, the SSP Alliance is a group of highly damaged and morally ambiguous individuals, according to Goode, that recognize at some level the need to change the status quo, but are hardly angels.
The Sphere Beings are a group of five extraterrestrial races, one of which is known as the Blue Avians, that arrived in the solar system during the late 1980’s. Two of the races remain unrevealed; however, there is also a race of Golden Triangle Head beings and Blue Orb beings made of light. Over the course of 20 years, they began bringing massive spheres into the solar system and surrounding area, some of which are the size of Jupiter. This is in an effort to down-step galactic energy waves, which are slowly changing life as we know it. These spheres are cloaked and not detectable by the surface population of Earth.
According to the Sphere Beings, a massive shift in energetic expression is now occurring in the solar system, as the result of a natural process of consciousness evolution, assisted by our solar system’s movement through the galaxy and increasingly coherent energy fields encountered as a result. The Sphere Being Alliance specifically asked for Goode to represent them in SSP Alliance meetings as a Sphere Being Alliance delegate. Presently, the SSP Alliance is negotiating with the remaining cabal aligned programs, as well as innumerable races that have lived in the solar system for millions of years, and even breakaway civilizations once resident on the Earth’s surface. The Sphere Beings have erected an energy barrier around the solar system preventing ingress and egress, trapping many of the negatively oriented groups that have been loosely allied with the secret Earth government syndicates for thousands of years. Since this event, the pyramid of power known on Earth known as the Cabal or Illuminati has fallen into disarray, because the Draco Alliance attempted to betray their underlings to the Sphere Beings in an attempt to gain passage out of the solar system and escape the coming justice of the SSP Alliance.
SSP factions encountered many intriguing things as they ventured out into the solar system. Apparently there are remnants of extremely old settlements and technology from what is called the Ancient Builder Race. These beings were incredibly advanced, using a type of consciousness technology that appears to be an inanimate object until activated by a user. They are also responsible for building ancient stargates found on nearly every major body in the solar system. According to the Agarthans, the Sphere Beings are in fact the Ancient Builder Race, although the SSP has yet to confirm this directly from them.
The dark side of the Moon is home to many different groups, including the ICC, the Draco Alliance, the SSP Alliance, the Dark Fleet, and more. The Moon is apparently an artificial object, and has become a neutral zone for all of these groups, which have maintained a peaceful armistice for thousands of years. The Moon serves as an observational outpost for over 60 groups of extraterrestrial races engaged in 22 genetic programs and social experiments on Earth. Some of these programs conflict with each other, yet all of them have influenced Earth’s history for millennia.
Clifford Stone is perhaps one of the most intense witness in the disclosure process currently unfolding before us. He relays incidents from his years of service with the U.S. Army where he served as an empath charged with making contact with extraterrestrial beings. It began in early childhood with an interest in UFOs and telepathic contact with otherworldly beings and grew as members of the military got wind of his abilities. This is only the beginning of his testimony, and already we can see how Clifford’s involvement shaped the early days of the SSP and what would become Corey Goode’s own experiences as an intuitive empath.
This discussion with David Wilcock was originally webcast August 9, 2016.
Summarized notes will be in black, with my commentary in [green bolded brackets]. Alterations to the transcript for ease of reading will be in [brackets], but the original content of the dialog is always maintained. The images with black letter boxing were captured from this episode on Gaia TV.
Transcribed by Andrew K. Commentary by Justin Deschamps.
Images for this episode are courtesy of spherebeingalliance.com.
DW = David Wilcock, CS = Clifford Stone, CG = Corey Goode.
DAVID WILOCK INTRODUCTION:
- DW – Hi. I’m David Wilcock, and you’re watching “Cosmic Disclosure.” I’m here with my co-host Corey Goode as we go down the rabbit hole. Clifford Stone never rose above the rank of sergeant while he served in the military. That’s an important point. But he was noticed by higher-ups in the military from the time he was a young boy, because of his empathic abilities—or, as he put it, his ability to telepathically “interface” with the extraterrestrials. When the military encountered extraterrestrial lifeforms, they entrusted Clifford to help with communication and facilitation with these entities. It turns out that there are many lifeforms and extraterrestrial species, just as Corey has been describing on our show. Life in this universe is much more robust than we have been led to believe. Stone individually corroborates this notion. So, ladies and gentlemen, without further ado, I give you Clifford Stone.
RECRUITING MR. STONE:
- CS – When I graduated in . . . it was [in the] first part of June, 1968, I got a notice from the draft board. And the draft board was telling me, “Greetings and salutations from your friends and neighbors. We need you to report for reconsideration at the Ashland, Kentucky, AFEES, Armed Forces Entrance Examination Station.”
- CS – And my mom was upset, says, “No”, you know. “I know you’re going to get in the military, and you’re going to wind up going to Vietnam.”
- I said, “Mom, you don’t have to worry about that. I’m medically disqualified. And it’s still going to be the same.”
- So I went there, and I passed all my written tests, you know, with flying colors, but I still had the medical problem.
- There was a captain there that was the medical doctor, and he’d already told me. He says, “Well, you know you’re going home.” He says, “I know that you’d like to go ahead and serve your country, but there’s nothing we can do. You have medical issues, and you’re not qualified for military service.”
- We had this colonel who was visiting from the Washington DC, area—I’m going to put it that way—who went ahead and told the captain, “Look, go ahead…” and it was on Friday, and it was Fourth of July weekend—“take your family, go on home, and enjoy the Fourth of July weekend. I’ll go ahead and finish up the ones here.”
- Well, I was saved till last. Then he called me in, and he said, “You know, you have medical problems.”
- I says, “Yes, sir.”
- And he says, “Do you really want to go in?”
- And I says, “Well, yes, sir. There’s a lot of people that don’t believe in this war. There’s a lot of people that don’t want to go. And I want to serve my country. And if I get to go, that’s one less person that’s going to have to go in my place.”
- I said, “Right now, I feel every time somebody that doesn’t want to go ends up going, that’s a person going in my place. And if I hear that they get killed, then they got killed in my stead.”
- And he says, “Well, what if I fix it to where you get to go? You can go ahead and fight it at any time. All you have to do is go and tell them that you have this medical issue.”
- And I said, “You get me in, I won’t fight it.”
- He says, “Well, remember, you got 179 days, once you’re in. After you hit that 180 days, you’re locked in. They’re recognize the medical problems, but you’re still in the service.”
- I went ahead. I got in. I hit up on staying in. I passed the 180 days, then I went to Fort Jackson, South Carolina.
- CS – When I got to Fort Jackson, South Carolina, that was for my AIT. That’s Advanced Individual Training, and I was going to be a clerk typist. Not the dream of my life, because I wanted to be a helicopter pilot, but that wasn’t about to come to pass because of the medical situation.
- But I went there, and I was one day in class, part of the second day in class. The next day, even before I got to class, they picked me out to go over and clean up the headquarters building and specifically the section that housed the intelligence section.
- When I went in there, there was this guy there who was visiting, once again, allegedly from the Washington, DC, area. And he drummed up this conversation with me.
- Well, my mom didn’t raise no fools. I wasn’t about to tell somebody I was interested in UFOs. And he went ahead and told me, he says, “Well, how do you feel about UFOs?”
- And I said, “I don’t know. I don’t give them much thought.”
- He says, “Oh, come now. Everyone thinks about UFOs.” He says, “Do you believe in them, or do you not believe in them?”
- And I remember saying, “I really don’t know. I haven’t given it much thought.”
- He says, “I think you have.” He says, “I personally believe in them.” He says, “Here, I want to show you something.”
- And I looked at some of the documents and some of the records he has there. When I’m looking at it, I’m thinking, “This is not for me to see.” Because I did not believe I had a security clearance.
- I knew what Top Secret meant. And I knew, by looking at those records, I was violating the federal law of the United States—the espionage laws.
- I did not know what the other words meant following Top Secret. Now I know that it is identifying it as documents under the Sensitive Compartmented Information Program or the Special Access programs.
- I did not know that prior.
- Now, I told him, “You know, I don’t think I should be looking at these. I don’t have a security clearance.”
- He told me, “Son, I am not showing you anything that I have not been told to show you.”
- I know now that from a very early age, somehow, some way, they knew I was having this ongoing interaction with—and I prefer to call them—“our visitors”. And it was the one species, but I know other species were interacting in and around with this one species.
- But only one of the entities was to follow me throughout life. But even at that, there was always that other interaction with the other entities.
- The reason that I feel that the military permitted me to get in—it wasn’t that they permitted me to get in. They have to choose people within the civilian sector that may not otherwise want to get into the military, that had this ongoing interrelation with “our visitors”.
- What they used me for when they used me with UFOs, it was called “interfacing”. And that’s where you actually carry on communication with “our visitors”, whether they’re injured or whether they’re okay and we’re holding them until their kind come and pick them up.
- But the whole situation is they won’t talk to just anyone. They’ll talk to these other people that have been specially selected.
- And like I said earlier, you don’t learn this. It’s not something they can teach you. So they have to find people within the civilian sector, and then they have to entice these people to where they become willing to come into the military.
- And a lot of times they may do this by appealing to your patriotic sense of duty or, in several cases, it’s even monetary gain. And when it’s monetary gain, every time I’ve seen that type of situation happen, it was because of family issues or otherwise people didn’t want to be involved.
- And these people are very difficult to find.
- The reason I know that—when I got out of the military, there were only seven in the military, including me.
- You know, when I got into the military, and after I went through AIT and everything, I got to my first duty station. And when I got to my first duty station, I was very concerned, because above all things—even though my record said I could type 72 words a minute—I would hunt and peck, and I’d be lucky if I could type four or five words a minute.
- So when I got to my first duty station, which was the 36 Civil Affairs Company of the 96 Civil Affairs Group at Fort Lee, Virginia, I went in and gave my records to my First Sergeant. And I went ahead and I told him. I said, “You know, First Sergeant, I think you should know right now, I can’t type.”
- He looked at my records and he says, “But you can read?”
- And I said, “Oh, yes, sir, “ or “Yes, First Sergeant, I can read. Not a problem there.”
- And he took my records back in to the company commander. The company commander then came back out and said, “Well, tell me, son. Are you color blind by any chance?”
- And I said, “No, sir.”
- And he says, “Okay, just checking.” And he says, “What color of the uniform do you have on?” which I found to be a very strange question.
- And I said, “Well, sir, it’s the AG44 Army dress green uniform.”
- “So you’re telling me it’s green?”
- I said, “Yes, sir. It’s green.”
- He said, “That’s all I want to know. I just wanted to make sure you wasn’t color blind.” Nothing else was said.
- Within a couple days, First Sergeant came back in and says, “Well, since you can’t type, what we’re going to do, we’re going to send you to Ft. McClellan, Alabama, to attend the non-commissioned officers’ nuclear biological chemical school.
- CS – Therefore, you’ll be the NBC, a non-commissioned officer for our unit. And it’s a three-week course.
- And I said, “Okay, I don’t mind doing that.”
- And he says, “But, of course, along with that, you’re going to be handling the communication equipment.”
- And I thought, “Okay, fine. It’s better than typing, because I can’t type.”
- So they went ahead, and they sent me to Fort McClellan. When I got there, we got to see some things, which I never actually understood how it would tie in to NBC.
- They showed this film, “This right here is from greater than 500 miles out in space, taken by a satellite.”
- CS – Then they went ahead, “This is the United States taken greater than 500 miles out in space by a satellite.”
- CS – Then, “This is New York City taken by a satellite greater than 500 miles out in space.”
- CS – “This is Central Park, taken by a satellite greater than 500 miles out in space.”
- CS – “This is a man on a park bench looking at a newspaper taken from a satellite greater than 500 miles out in space.”
- CS – “This is the headlines of that newspaper taken from a satellite greater than 500 miles out in space.”
- CS – The date was sometime in 1968. And, of course, this was, I think, February of ’69.
- But we wasn’t supposed to have this type of technology. I know now, from my research and hitting up on my documentation with the NRO, that we had satellites capable of doing this all the way back to the mid-60s and probably earlier before that.
- CS – But did not know it at that time. I was an innocent kid having no idea what I was being groomed for.
- Anyhow, we finished school, and I met this guy. I knew him as Jack. He was a Spec. 5. And he worked for the US Army Security Agency.
- CS – And, of course, he was assigned to the National Security Agency.
- CS – And he said . . . You know, when I got ready to come back home, I found out my ticket had been stolen. And I’m wondering how am I going to get back home? How am I going to get back to my unit? And because, you know, Fort McClellan, Alabama, versus getting back to Fort Lee, Virginia.
- And he says, “Well, you know, I’m there at Fort Belvoir. It’s on the way. I’ll go ahead, and you drive along with me. I got my own car here.”
- So we drove. And as we drove home, we talked about various things—family, military, things of this sort. Then he brought up about he had an incident where he saw a UFO. And he started to prod me.
- “Have you ever seen a UFO?” And I said, “Oh, I’ve seen things I couldn’t identify.” But, you know, I tried to keep it low key.
- And he says, “Come on, you can tell me. We’re friends.” So I started telling him a little bit more.
- Well, he dropped me off at my unit. And a couple of weeks later, he called and said, “Hey, listen. You’ve never been into Washington, DC, have you? You’ve never visited the Pentagon and some of the other nice to see places around here that tourists like to come visit.”
- I went, “No.”
- He says, “Well, why don’t I send a car to pick you up?”
- Now remember, he’s a Spec 5. That’s an E-5 in the military. It’s the same as a Sergeant E-5. The difference is, is that you’re a specialist in your field with no command authority. Sergeant E-5—they have command authority.
- So they went ahead, and he’s going to go ahead and send a staff car. Highly unusual, but I didn’t think anything about it. Hey, NSA – what do I know?
- But a car pulls up, complete with driver, and at my unit, and they’re taking me away for the weekend, supposedly. And we went to Fort Belvoir, Virginia. I know that for a fact.
- CS – And we went to, I’m saying, it’s the NSA headquarters is where we went. And we went to his office.
- When we got there, well, Jack wasn’t there. He had to go. He had an assignment he had to work on, but he’d be coming in later on. So one of the other guys who was there, who was supposed to be one of Jack’s friends, says, “Hey, no problem. Why don’t I take you to the Pentagon, because I understand you’ve never visited the Pentagon? Why don’t I take you over there and let you see what goes on over at the Pentagon, get to visit there?”
- CS – And he went ahead and he gave me a badge. He says, “Keep this badge on you at all times.”
- And they had a picture there. Then it had different color-coded sections on it that said where I was authorized to go and where I wasn’t authorized to go.
- And right at the bottom there was something on it that he stated, “That’s very important because that opens up all the doors to you. But you have to stay right with me.”
- We go into the Pentagon. And when we go into the Pentagon, we go in, and he takes me around and shows me some of the offices. He shows me the one place where – “This, right here, is where they had the news conference in 1952 – July 29, 1952, dealing with the UFOs that was seen over Washington, DC.”
- CS – And he says, “You’re aware, of course, that 68 UFOs were picked up on the night of August 18, 1952?”
- And I said, “Oh, yeah. I’m very aware of that.”
- Then he says, “Well, you know, the most unique case, even though all these get all the publicity, was the night of July 19 and 20. That was the most unique one. Most people don’t know anything about it. And he carried on the conversation, bits and pieces about it.
- Then we get to an elevator. And he says, “Well, I’m going to show you the basement of this place.” He says, “People haven’t seen this, and, of course, we have to harden”, which means that you prepare a building for a nuclear strike, “so we have to harden the Pentagon to make sure that people survive in the event of a nuclear attack.”
- So he took me on down. And we got down . . . I don’t know how many floors down.
- But we got out and there was this little silver car. I mean, you couldn’t tell which was the front, and which was the back other than where the seats were, and the seats were facing one direction.
- CS – And we got into that, looked like a little bullet. We got into it, and he says, “This is called a monorail.” He says, “It’s not on a track.” And he showed me where you have a little tube-like, and it drove on that. And it was electromagnetically driven.
- So he went ahead, and we got in there. And I don’t know how long we drove underneath there, but he was trying to tell me that the Pentagon’s a mighty big place. So don’t be concerned that we’re driving for . . . in that little con . . . and there’s no driver. You know where you’re going and . . . I’m sure he had some way to control it, but I don’t remember all of that about it.
- I was just taken aback and fascinated because this was the first time I’d seen anything like that.
- But we got to this one place and there was this door on the side. We get out and we go into that door and there’s this long corridor—no doors, just a long corridor. And this is underneath the, allegedly, underneath the Pentagon.
- And I know we drove for at least 20 minutes.
- But we went down that corridor, and he was telling me, “You know, a lot of things aren’t the way they seem.”
- He says, “This looks just like it’s a long corridor. You walk down to the end, there’s nothing there. You have to turn around and come back. You can see the door at the other end.”
- And I said, “Yeah. What’s your point?”
- “Well, a lot of things aren’t as they seem to be.”
- He tapped on the wall, and he says, “Solid wall, right?”
- And I said, “Yeah.” And I started to say, “What’s your point?” Before I could say anything, he says, “It isn’t necessarily solid.” And he pushed me. And I go through the wall.
- You know, there’s nothing there, but yet, when I was there, it looked like it was just a solid wall.
- And I go, “What the heck are you doing?” But before I could get up and say, “What the heck are you doing?” I notice I’m in a room. I turn around. When I turn around, there is this, what we call a field desk, which is nothing more than a little table.
- And setting at the field desk, is what you would call your typical Grey.
- CS – And, once again—people get upset with it—I’m going to have to say he was about 4 ½, maybe even 5-foot tall. But he’s sitting there, and he’s got his hands up like this [on desk], and he’s looking directly at me.
- On either side of him . . . and I’m not going to say black suit, it’s a dark suit, and they had dark glasses on. And they were standing there like this. [Standing up straight.] Not one word was said.
- And I was the one that when I got up and turned around to see, “What the heck are you doing?” That’s what I said. I remember to this day. “What the heck you do . . . ?”
- And I stopped right there because I saw this, and immediately it’s like a buzz saw going off in my head. I went down on my knees, and I went face down first. I remember that. That’s the last thing I remember.
- I wake up. I’m back in Jack’s office. I’m being told nothing happened. I must have dreamed it. No one took me any place. We had been there all along, and I seemed to be tired. And I must have just dozed off.
- Jack never showed up. I was put back into the staff car, and I was drove back to my unit, being told that whatever mission Jack was on, it was going to be time-consuming and it probably would be another week before you get to come back. Last contact with Jack.
- The reason I think that that incident happened, it was part of the conditioning to get me in the frame of mind that I would understand there are many things that people aren’t supposed to believe in, that is reality. And that I was going to have to play a role in it, whether I wanted to or not.
- So I think it was part of the conditioning to get me conditioned to where I would accept it and, eventually, assure myself, within my own self, that I was doing this for the greater good of the country.
- And I’ll tell you, right now. All the time that I was involved in this stuff, I really felt that I was doing something that was for the greater good of the country until toward the end. And then I didn’t feel that way.
- DW – This is pretty intense stuff here. This is an origin story. And I don’t know about you, Corey, but when I watch that clip, anybody [who] is going to try to tell me that this guy is making this up—
- CG – No.
- DW – I mean, come on.
- CG – There was nothing but genuineness coming.
- DW – And I don’t know if you know this, Corey, but Sergeant Stone’s son died as a result of him coming forward.
- CG – Yeah, I heard.
- DW – This guy has not profited off of his story. He came out in 2001 at the Disclosure Project. He’s hardly done any events since then. He is not trying to go out there and make a name for himself. He’s obviously not getting any ego gratification off of telling these stories. And they haven’t changed in the 20-some years that he’s been out there publicly.
- CG – He’s not the ego-centric type.
- DW – No, definitely not. You can clearly see, in the beginning of this interview, 1968—the height of the Vietnam War. It really was remarkable to me his sense of personal honor and duty to his country that he wanted to go in the place of people who didn’t want to go. That he felt personally responsible for those people’s lives.
- CG – Yeah.
INTUITIVE EMPATH ABILITIES:
- DW – Now do you think that that quality is part of what made him empathic enough to do this intuitive communication?
- CG – That’s one of those chicken or the egg kind of questions. You know, nature or nurture. These personality types are heavily searched for. They are extremely valuable. And he didn’t say it this way, but he is what they would call an intuitive empath. And this ability that intuitive empaths have allows the military types to interface or communicate with beings that don’t use words, that have left language behind, you know, eons ago. And, you know, they’re not going to be able to sit there and doodle questions back and forth on a notepad.
- DW – Yeah. I thought that was one of the really fascinating aspects of corroboration with your testimony that we’re getting out of Sergeant Clifford Stone here. The simple fact that it is such a rarity that the extraterrestrials will find anyone who they actually want to speak to.
- CG – Right.
STONE WAS TARGETED FOR RECRUITMENT:
- DW – Now, he also mentioned in there that he had a medical issue that would prevent him from going into the military. And I just want to clarify that he didn’t ever say what it was. It was a personal private matter. But it sounds like the fix was in on him. I mean, would you agree with that? That this is something he’d been targeted for?
- CG – Yes. The military-industrial complex—whatever you want to call them—they are tracking just about all of these visitor craft that come. And, more than likely, when he was young, and one of these craft had come and visited him, sometime after it left, he was probably re-abducted by the military to be questioned about the relationship and what all happened with his visit. And, at that point, you’re on their radar. Even if they don’t come and re-abduct you, they know the people that are being visited.
- DW – All right. So let’s now talk about how he gets activated, and they throw him into this very bizarre job. But it’s in Washington, DC. And on the second day, he has this official, who’s supposedly only a Spec/5, that comes in and starts trying to make small talk with him about UFOs. This very clearly looks like it was a setup. Do you think that the whole job of him going there was just a setup?
- CG – Yeah.
- DW – That they sent him there to have that guy approach him?
- CG – Yes. That’s exactly what happened. They—and in the military, people just don’t nonchalantly kick back and say, “What do you think about UFOs?”
- DW – Right.
- CG – It’s just like how pilots are. And like American Airlines, you’re not going to see one of them walking around with their peers talking about UFOs. It’s taboo.
- DW – Is it common for potential insiders to be approached in a manner like this, with somebody who has documents in hand that are highly classified and then just tell you not to freak out, that you’re authorized to see these documents if they want somebody that badly?
- CG – Yes. And all it takes is a person higher up clearing a person to see documents that are from special access programs.
- DW – Right. So are you familiar with other people having a system similar to this happen to them, in terms of getting brought in? Where, first of all, it’s very strange. A guy who’s only a Spec/5 has the rank to be able to go right into the Pentagon. And then the whole thing about him being given a special badge and being able to just go right in.
- CG – Yeah. He had to be accompanied.
- DW – Right.
- CG – Yeah.
UNDERGROUND TRANSIT SYSTEM:
- DW – Is that—and then him going down through this long elevator for, God knows how long, and reaching—what was your feeling about him getting to that little craft that he described, this little egg-shaped thing where it looked the same on both sides?
- CG – It’s a train, a transit system—the underground transit system.
- DW – So his description is consistent with what you have heard and seen?
- CG – Yes. And that sounds like one of the smaller trams that brings them to different areas within a facility.
- DW – So he takes this ride, and we have something that sounds a lot like <BRITISH ACCENT> “Platform 9 ¾” in Harry Potter. Is there maybe some kind of hologram technology, a projection that makes it look like a wall? What do you think that was?
- CG – Yeah. They’ve used holographic technology. And holograms within fields that they called hard light that actually had…
- DW – Oh.
- CG – You know, you could knock on it. You could touch it. Or it could be programmed to be electrical. [This sounds remarkably similar to the holographic technology used in the fictional series Star Trek. In the show, the crew could create photonic holograms on what they called the holodeck, that was physically solid to the touch. And within the fictional storyline, the same technology was used to create force fields or electrified barriers capable of shocking those foolish enough to bump into them.]
- DW – So it’s totally within the bounds of things that you’ve experienced that his story could be, in fact, genuine.
- CG – Nothing he said raised my eyebrows.
- DW – So he goes through that wall that’s seemingly solid, and then he is seated in front of a Grey that he said was 4 ½ to 5-feet tall. And you notice there was some reluctance there, in terms of him obviously thinking that our viewers are going to expect Greys to maybe be more like 3-feet tall.
- CG – Yeah. There are a lot of different types of beings that a lot of people in the UFO community put the Grey stamp on. They have a lot of different looks. They come from totally different areas. They’re unrelated, but they look very similar.
- DW – Now, he reported going in front of this Grey that’s got these two guys on either side and then having a feeling like a buzz saw inside his mind that actually causes him to pitch forward and fall to the ground. Do you think that’s something that they Grey was able to do telepathically?
- CG – It sounds like it was an invasive interface attempt. You know, he wasn’t sitting there, opened, indicating that he was ready to interface. Some of the beings are—they’re very, very, very powerful, psychically. And they just reach in, and they just grab your mind.
- DW – All right, now another thing that I thought was really interesting. That there was statements about a satellite 500 miles away from the Earth, and he’s shown a series of images in which the zoom keeps going further and further from the Earth, to America, to, I believe it was Long Island, and then a guy on a park bench, and then the headline on the newspaper. Are you aware of there being perhaps NRO technologies like this in the 1960s?
- CG – Oh, yeah. They’ve had this for a long time. And the distance he gives of most of the secret military space program objects are further than 400 miles from the Earth.
- DW – Right. so these are not geostationary satellites at all.
- CG – No, they can be tasked to go to different areas.
- DW – Right.
- CG – Yeah.
DAVID WILCOCK INTRODUCTION:
- DW – All right. Well, what we’re going to do now is we’re going to take you right into the next really fascinating clip that’s directly relevant to the one you just saw from Clifford Stone. And this was his first example of where he got to see a UFO at Indiantown Gap. This is very interesting stuff. So take a look.
INDIANTOWN GAP UFO:
- CS – Now the next thing that involves something of a UFO nature, we were at Indiantown Gap, and we were on a field training exercise. They call it FTX.
- CS – So we went to Indiantown Gap. We set up. I had my Deuce and a Half, and I drove my Deuce and a Half.
- CS – I had my switchboard in the back of the Deuce and a Half. And I had my field phones that I had to set up to the various locations outside and I handled the switchboard.
- CS – And I had two prick-25’s. Those are field radios, backpack radios.
- So I had those there. One was for the group push—what we’d call battalion push, really. And the other one was for the company push.
- So, you know, you had mock traffic and all this stuff that you recorded, like, if it was a real situation.
- But a little after midnight we got a call that there was a crash of an aircraft there on the reservation of Indiantown Gap, and that they already had a response team there on station, but they needed a backup response unit to go out there.
- I disconnected my field phones, because there wasn’t time to pick them all up, and they would get somebody else to move in there. But I did that, and we moved on out.
- There were three jeeps and four Deuce and a Halfs—2 ½ ton trucks—to the best of my recollection. That’s the best I can remember.
- We went out, and as we approached the area, we were in blackout dry, which means we had no lights on or nothing, but then we saw this area ll lit up, with these big powerful—I think they call them light-alls—shining down into this little area where the Earth had been raised up a little.
- CS – And there was like this hill-shaped craft embedded at about a 30º~40º angle into the ground. You could only see the tail end of it.
- So as we approach it, I’m wondering, “What the heck is that?” But now they’d already told us that it was an experimental aircraft.
- And, as we got closer, I wasn’t thinking no more. “Well, it could be an experimental aircraft.” And I wasn’t thinking too much. You know, I was thinking, “Okay, well, it could be a delta wing aircraft swept back—anything like that.
- CS – But when I got there, as soon as I got out, the guy that I always called the Colonel—this would be my actual first interaction with him.
- He went ahead and he told me, “Son, do you have a Geiger counter?” And I said, “I got an APD 27.”
- And he says, “That’ll work. I need a surface reading on this craft.”
- I said, “Do you think there’s radioactive material on this aircraft?”
- And he says, “We have reason to believe that there may be.”
- And I went ahead and said, “Okay.” So I got the APD 27, the military Geiger counter, out.
- And he told me, “I want you to walk towards the craft. Go up to the berm of the area where it dug in, and try to get a reading as close to the center of the craft as possible.” And I said, “Okay.”
- And he said, “But every couple feet, you go ahead and yell out what type of reading you’re getting.”
- And while I did this, I’d go ahead, and I’d get closer. And it was a little higher than background radiation, but not a whole lot. Then I got up to the berm. And when I got to the berm, I looked down.
- <Emotional response> And when I looked down, there was this . . . It had a canopy on it. And there was this kidney-shaped hatch, for a better word, that was right up against the canopy, but opens to the side. And halfway out was this little creature. Once again, typical Grey.
- And, you know, I can’t tell you whether it was 3-foot, 4-foot, 5-foot, but <emotional response> it was half out and half in, and I could tell that it was dead.
- And I started to say, <emotional> “Excuse me. I need an officer up here.”
- And he says, “Just tell us what you see, son.”
- And I kept saying back to them, “You know what? You don’t understand! I need an officer up here!” <Emotional>
- And he said, “Just tell us what you see, son.”
- And I said <emotional>, “Well, what I’m seeing . . . it’s not from this world, and you guys know that.” I said, “Why the hell are we lying? Why are we telling people that these things aren’t happening?”
- I said, “What do you want me to do now? I need an officer up here.”
- And he said, “It’s okay, son. Come on back down.”
- And I went ahead. I turned around, and I walked back down. And when I walked on back down, I looked the guy that I called the Colonel right in the face, and I said, “What the hell are we doing here?” I said, “You know, there could be others on there hurt.”
- And he says, “We’ll take care of it. You get back in your Deuce and a Half, and you man your switchboard.”
- There’s no phones connected up, no nothing. I got back there, and I know it was winter, because I had my field jacket on. It was cold, and the only thing I had for a heater back there was a Coleman lantern. But, you know, I got back there.
- The next day, when it was daylight, I looked out, and I saw them moving the craft. And it was a hill-shaped craft.
- They put it on back of . . . we called it a lowboy—a 18-wheeler. It’s just a flatbed.
- CS – We covered it with a tarp, and we moved it out. I have no idea where it went. Then we went back.
- We were told that it was an experimental UNMANNED craft, which you didn’t hear of drones at that time. And that was the end of it, but the situation, the whole matter, was classified.
- No one was to ever talk about it.
- Not everybody is trained or has knowledge of what to do or to have any interaction with “our visitors”. And like I say, the people who they [military] need to do this [interface with the “visitors”], they have to find in the civilian sector.
- So I think I was the closest thing to that that they had there. So they went ahead and called us in, because they needed the one person, and that was me.
- And, see, you feel things. And when I approached, I was feelings things. That’s . . . I guess, that’s why I get emotional about it.
- It’s not just looking down there and seeing a little dead guy. You’re feeling . . . you’re feeling pain. You’re feeling loss. You’re feeling suffering. You’re feeling fear. But it’s not like fear that you’re going to feel as an individual.
- It’s just like 1,000 pictures running through your mind that you can see. But the emotions attached to those pictures, they’re all there.
USAGE OF SECLUDED AREAS:
- DW – All right. Well, that’s some pretty intense stuff there. Now, Corey, Indiantown Gap—if it’s a reservation, I assume that there could be some pretty wide-open spaces, some pretty empty areas, in which something like this could happen. And they could kind of swoop in, and not too many people would know about it.
- CG – Some Indian reservations are used. They have installations hidden on various Indian reser…
- DW – Oh, so do you think it’s possible that there could be, like, a joint human-extraterrestrial base or maybe an extraterrestrial base around that reservation? And maybe they crashed because they were close to where they would come in?
- CG – I have been informed many times…
- DW – Oh, really?
- CG – … that they have installations on Indian reservations in areas that are secluded.
TESTING STONES CAPABILITIES AS CLASSIFIED ASSET:
- DW – Interesting. So you have Stone here, and some skeptics might try to attack him for this or think that he has an ego or something when he says that the whole reason why that detachment was brought out—because they already had people managing the situation, then his detachment gets brought out. Do you think it is true that that could have all been just because of him?
- CG – Them calling in reinforcements?
- DW – Mm-hm.
- CG – That part was just for him, to get him in.
- DW – So why would they send a kid out there by himself with a Geiger counter, ostensibly to take radiation readings, but then he walks up and he sees this dead extraterrestrial body? What’s the objective of doing that to him?
- CG – They had checked the radiation long before they called in for backup. They already knew what all the radiation readings were. It had nothing to do with radiation. What it had to do—it was a kind of a controlled test, to send him up, get his reaction, and also to see if he detected any lifeforms that were, you know, still alive.
- DW – So why do you think, when he keeps calling out, “I need an officer. I need an officer,” that they’re telling him just to yell out what he sees? Are they gauging his stress—how much stress can he handle in that situation? Will he break down?
- CG – Yes. They’re judging how much stress he’s having. They’re reading every single thing, his body, everything about him. Not all people that have the ability to interface are meant to do so. Some people just don’t have the psyche to deal with it. So this was a major test to see how he reacted, how he did in the days after. They watched him very closely. And, if he fit the bill, then they’re like, “OK, he’s an asset now.”
- DW – Well, and he also said—he got very emotional and said, “Why aren’t we telling people about this? If this stuff is real, why don’t we know?”
- CG – That’s a pretty common response.
- DW – Do you think that in the subsequent days after this that they’d check to see if he tries to blow the whistle…
- CG – Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
- DW – …or tell somebody?
- CG – Oh, yeah.
- DW – So they’re also gauging his silence.
- CG – Yeah. They were watching him very closely and judging everything that he did, said, everything that happened with the people around him, in the context of how it related to the craft and the being that they exposed him to.
INTERFACING (TELEPATHY) EXPERIENCE:
- DW – Now, he also described seeing what seemed like a flash-forward image of a whole bunch of pictures. He mentioned, like, 1,000 different thought-forms, each of which has very intense emotions associated with them, like pain. And it sounded from his description as if it was really fast…
- CG – Yeah.
- DW – … just a very intense, almost overwhelming, experience.
- CG – Yes. And most likely that being that had died—when someone or a being dies, there’s still residual energy left. And he may have been picking up on that. Everything that that creature felt as it was crashing or afterwards as it was dying, a lot of that residual is in that area. And he walked into that residual field.
- DW – Have you experienced this sort of flip-book, 1,000 pictures with emotions, type of experience like what he’s describing?
- CG – Oh, yeah. Yeah. When you interface, you’re not getting words back and forth. You’re getting smells, tastes, images. I mean, it’s—and you have to piece it together in a way to where you can communicate back and forth and turn those experiences—the smells, tastes—into words to report back to the people that are counting on you to interface with the being.
- DW – Mm. Well, this is just the beginning of how Stone’s testimony lines up so well with yours. But obviously, as we’re seeing here, there is a great deal of crossover. And once again, I believe Sergeant Clifford Stone was one of the most intense Disclosure Project witnesses, because people always say, “Oh, come on. The government isn’t picking up these UFOs.” But clearly you’re getting a boots-on-the-ground, very detailed testimony of someone who actually was doing this professionally in the military. Coming up next time on “Cosmic Disclosure,” we’re going to have more of this fascinating content for you to explore with us here. And we’ll see you next time. Thank you for watching.
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