In the first half, Dave Schrader (email) welcomed author and UFO researcher, Bill Birnes, who discussed a wide range of UFO topics from the highly anticipated May 5 press conference in Mexico, to the disclosure comment made by former Obama advisor John Podesta. Birnes also addressed Pres. Obama’s recent comments on the Jimmy Kimmel show about UFOs. A number of presidents have brought up the topic, such as Ronald Reagan talking about seeing an unexplained craft when he was flying in a plane over the Mojave Desert, and Pres. Carter filing a formal UFO sighting report when he was governor of Georgia. Though Obama approached the topic humorously, what he conveyed– that he was not allowed to reveal anything on the subject, rang true, Birnes stated.
Podesta has been an adamant supporter for open government, and believes the govt. keeps too many secrets, especially regarding UFO files, said Birnes, who added that if Hillary Clinton becomes president, Podesta may try to influence her toward disclosure. Regarding the so-called ‘Roswell Slides’ which are said to depict aliens and will be revealed in May, Birnes was somewhat skeptical. The slide that’s been leaked shows an alien that appears somewhat insectoid in appearance, which doesn’t match the more human description of witnesses of the Roswell aliens, he noted.
In the latter half, journalist and UFO researcher, Nigel Watson, spoke about UFO rumors and scares of World War I. Many of the incidents involved pilots seeing unexplained artificial lights in the skies, which they tried to follow. But one of the more sensational cases involved claims about the ‘Red Baron,’ who was flying on a mission over Belgium in 1917, when he encountered a saucer-shaped craft about 130 ft. in diameter, with undulating orange lights. Supposedly, the Red Baron shot down the craft and two people escaped on the ground– though Watson felt the veracity of this account, which emerged in 1999, was somewhat questionable.
One interesting incident took place in Turkey in 1915, when several hundred British troops were said to go up to the top of a hill, when a large cloud came over the hill. When the cloud went away, the soldiers had disappeared. He also touched on the British airship scare of 1909, in which a tube-shaped object was seen on the ground that left a 54 ft. long gouge, and a “cigar-shaped boat” was observed in the sky.