I found this on a forum and it has a lot of good points in it. After Winston’s Piece there is another fascinating Article about Acceptance for Value.
WINSTON SHROUT – Solutions in Commerce #4
People have believed for almost 250 years that they have a sovereignty, when in fact they don’t.
The United States is still a British Colony. And has been from the very inception. The so-called “Founding Fathers” were members of the “Crown”. They were attorneys, Benjamin Franklin in particular. And so, for instance, the signers on the Declaration of Independence—it was signed by the “Crown”, and the attorneys for the Crown.
The conquest of the Native People by a “bankrupt corporation”—U.S.A. Inc., and the treaties that were signed, that is original validity. One of the great tragedies of the United States is that it tried to obliterate, through apartheid, it tried to obliterate the people off the land. And not only just by war. They’ve tried to prevent the people to increase their numbers, by sterilization, by all manner of things. The churches have tried to take the children away and turn them into corporate citizens. We’ve seen this continually, and it still goes on today.
To give you an idea of what went on in the earliest of time.
There was the East India Trading Co. which sought to subjugate the whole world, and they continue to try to do so. This was the corporation that funded the colonization of the original 13 Colonies or States. They are the ones that created the Debt.
It is true that the people from Europe who have occupied America have always done so under bankruptcy. What they tried to do to avoid the bankruptcy, they tried to incorporate and shift the liability from the Private side into the Public. And they did that by incorporating under the Articles of Confederation. With the incorporation, the new entity took on the debt and liability that was owed to the East India Trading company, and consequently, the King of England at that time.
Now they found that their incorporation was flawed because they had no way of enforcing their international treaties. In other words, they had not successfully incorporated the principles of international laws under admiralty into the Articles of Confederation. So at that point they formed a new corporation and they had a new document which was called the Constitution for the UNITED STATES.
Now, the Constitution for the UNITED STATES took over and assumed the liability that was assumed by the previous corporation by the Articles of Confederation which assumed the debt that the 13 Colonies owed to the East India Trading Company.
So the Constitution, which everybody seems to be so much worried about, was in fact a filing of bankruptcy. The bankruptcy had already been declared. And the Europeans that operated on the soil of North America had come here under bankruptcy and it continued to be so.
Now, with the creation of the Constitution, there was a filing of the bankruptcy in the year 1789. Under the Anglo rules of Bankruptcy says that a nation can go into bankruptcy for a period of 70 years. The main question for the first period of bankruptcy was: WHO shall be the surety?—[the one that shall be responsible for paying the debt of the other person]. What can we use to secure the payment?—(basically the debt was owed to King George through the East Indian Trading Co./the Bank of England was also in existence then)
Answer:—It was the land. So, the land was lien-ed up against.
As was mentioned, the bankruptcy lasted 70 years. So if you add 70 years onto the year 1789 + 70 = 1859, which would have been the end of the national bankruptcy if the debt was repaid. But it was not repaid, in fact the debt was increased. As a consequence, a second bankruptcy was contemplated. But because all the land in the North was all lien-ed up, and there was no way to use it for surety again, they had to find a new surety.
So what do you thing the federal government in Washington D.C. decided to do?—go out by CONQUEST and seize all the free whole land that they could get their hands on. As a consequence of that, in 1860… or whatever, they concocted a new war, and they called it a Civil War. Or, they called it a “war between the States” when in fact the States were not at war with each other. It was the federal government that was at war.
And so they used the free whole land of the South as the surety for the second period of bankruptcy. They could not pay, and they had no intention of paying off the debt because they wanted to continue on in bankruptcy. Approximately in
Well, wouldn’t you know it. Then came the Civil War—called the war between the States, in actuality it was the war between the States and the Federal Government.
In 1871 a new corporation was formed called UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. This new corporation went in Washington D.C., at that time there were 5 separate jurisdictions, and it consolidated the 5 districts of Washington D.C. into one. And from that they formed a new corporation to assume the debt. Well, they did a poor job of it, as you can imagine.
Because it was by 1903, it was obvious that this new corporation would not and could not pay the debt. In 1913, they came out with something known as the Federal Reserve Act. Now the purpose of the Federal Reserve Act was what?—to try to deal with the bankruptcy. And under international law, if the people of the United States did not object to the Federal Reserve Act, then it became law.
Now, let’s add another 70 years onto the end of the previous period of bankruptcy, that was the year 1859 + 70 = 1929. In 1929, the Europeans crashed the stock market in the United States and caused an artificial depression to occur, to force the people into a mold that they were trying to create.
So in 1933, we had the Federal Reserve Act as law and the Federal Reserve came in. And everything changed. They got rid of the gold, people could not use it for commerce, and they started using a fiat currency.
And, inadvertently, or by design, not exactly sure what is actual, as they went into this third period of bankruptcy, what do you think they used in that bankruptcy as the surety?—It was The people. The people are now the dirt.
The people now became the Surety for payment of the debt. People are moveable dirt. That’s what you are. There are deeds out on the human flesh because we are considered moveable dirt. The only difference is that this dirt just gets up and walks around a little bit. But it is considered dirt.
So for this period of bankruptcy here beginning in 1929, it was the people that became the surety. But there was a principle in the Old Testament that was adhered to by the Anglo people. Which was the principle of slavery. Slavery is this, that if you cannot pay your debt, you can go into slavery and basically work it off. Do not confuse slavery with involuntary servitude. The African people that were brought here to North America were not brought here for slavery. They were brought here under involuntary servitude. Because you have to go into slavery voluntarily. Its not by conquest.
And so, the people in the United States went into slavery by their permission. Its true they did so in ignorance. But it appears the creator steps in and takes care of the matter. Because after the 70 years of slavery, the debt was paid. So if you add 70 onto 1929, you come up to 1999. Specifically, if I remember, it was November 6, 1999, when the slavery and the bankruptcy was over with.
So what does this mean to the people?—It means they can no longer be held as surety for the debt that was incurred by the East India Trading Company. If the people decide that they do not want to operate in bankruptcy any longer, they do not have to do so. In Canada it’s the same thing. The dates may vary slightly, but it’s the same principle that is involved here.
The moment that you decide that you no longer want to be held in bankruptcy, you can simply come out.
And that is what I did. I am not a slave, because by my labor I paid for the debt that was originally incurred way back when. So we spent a good deal of time, not just myself, but many others, have been going around teaching some basic concepts about what we call “Commercial Redemption” to demonstrate how you can come out of the bondage that you have previously experienced.
Now you do not have to come out if you do not want to. Most of the people in America, the United States and so forth, have decided that they will stay in bankruptcy for whatever reason, maybe its more convenient, or whatever, not quite sure of the thing. But the issue is this: You cannot be held in bankruptcy if you decide to come out of it. And so the techniques and the technologies, and so forth, that we’ve been talking about here, and in other seminars, we have tried to give you the tools, the technology, the knowledge, perhaps the desire, to come away from what you have had to deal with from the past.
Most of the questions and situations that we have addressed for the last 5 years (2004), and since that time we have had a chance to visit and have gone around the U.S., and into some foreign countries (Australia & New Zealand), but what we have had to teach people is to how to come out of debt. Because in order to say that you are free, you cannot have a lien against you.
We start talking about “un-LIEN-able” rights—how can you exist with unalienable right when you have a debt against it. And so most of the questions and conversations we have had over the years is to explain to people how they can come out from under debt.
Its like going to the doctor and telling him, “Every time I bend my elbow it hurts, what to do?” The doctor will say, “Just don’t do it. Stop bending your elbow.”
Same thing as going into a bank and telling the banker, “Every time I go into debt I feel terrible.” Its obvious, then, what to not do.
So we are trying to understand how to live in a society that is based on debt. To try to learn how to avoid the consequences of those things. All the stuff we have been talking about, the tools we are giving to you, is so you can alleviate the debt. We have been trying to take the debt off the people, we have been trying to take the debt off the land. And those things are very difficult to do.
We have met with a great deal of resistance from the corporate world. They are saying, “NO! We got you where we want you. We got you under our thumb, we’re not going to let you out!” And so in some instances we have had to resort to some pretty mean things, from time to time. So tomorrow we are going to go over how you can start to eliminate that debt situation.
Because remember, all the debt you are involved in is part of a fiction world. It does not exist in reality. Its all a fiction because of what?—The PREPAY. Everything in the PUBLIC is prepay. But there are a bunch of sharks and barracudas swimming around in the sea of admiralty here, who are relying on the ignorance of the people, so they can keep them in bondage, so they can keep stealing their sweat equity.
And so these are the issues that we have been trying to demonstrate. Those are the techniques and technologies that we have been trying to teach so you can overcome the sharks and barracudas. Because I can tell you right now that the sharks and barracudas have no intention of letting go. They have no intention of giving you up easily. So when you go out of here and try to use some of this technology, you are going to run into resistance—guaranteed!
Anybody here not run into resistance?—no…no…[from the seminar audience]
So, from time to time we will give you different tools with that regard. Sometimes it seems to go very very good, and other times it seems to go very hard. And so we are continually on the move, developing the background, so you can come in and rectify the problems when you have the resistance.
And [how we do it] its kind of like turning a shark against a shark. And that is what we have basically done because the corporations operate on the greed principle. So we make it very profitable for one shark to attack another shark. And that is what we are doing. As I mentioned to you, the IRS is my very best friend. Because the IRS operates on the greed principle. And I can turn them against any other corporation. And because they are so powerful, they will go and gobble them up. And they will not hiccup. They won’t blink. They will go and do it.
And so that is the technology that we have developed that is what we present to you and how to use those things to try to put pressure on the establishment to do the right thing.
Now remember, a corporation is created as a fiction. It is created for the benefit of a real entity. But when the corporation stops acting for the benefit of its creator, and starts to attack its creator, it has to be eliminated. And we’re having just a little bit of resistance sometimes, and then we start eliminating corporations because they get very exited. Because it appears that the majority of people prefer to live that way. So we do have those problems from time to time.
Excerted from: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=265327596563796191
Article by Guy Euden
THE 70 YEAR BANKRUPTCY CYCLE and a bit more Accepted for Value
Following on from Accepted for Value part two, I wish to open your eyes to more possibilities, and maybe show you some more of the matrix (imaginary system).
I would firstly like to offer you a little food for thought, the bankruptcy of the UK and anywhere else has a time limit, I will bring you this as absolute evidence shortly in another upcoming article, for now however, I would like you to digest the ramifications of what I am about to tell you.
Bankruptcy lasts for 70 years or 3 score and 10 if you like (thanks John), every now and again a country has its slate wiped clean, this means that taxes on the people no longer need to be collected for the “Banksters” and their “minions” in fact they no longer need to be collected at all….. hang on a minute? This simply won’t do!
So let’s do a little arithmetic in a moment and see what adds up,… just for fun! The Bankruptcy Act of 1869 was a devastating blow for the people, however the people did not even know of it! Yet again another behind closed doors swindle by the insipid Banksters (mobsters) and their in the pocket minions “politicians” it allowed a reorganisation of how things worked financially speaking.
Now let’s say 70 years elapsed and we were about to become debt free? What then would we need to pay taxes for? Why would we need to pay out extortionate amounts of cash to these legalised criminals? The answer is we wouldn’t!
So something needed to be done!
It appears that we are now hovering around….. oh yes 1939, oh the sweetness in the air for a debt free population free from excess taxes…… which was soon to be plunged into darkness! The Banksters soon concocted the next bankruptcy!! its excuse? You guessed it! WW2!! Patriotism being just one part of the vast array of weapons of mass distraction!
We needed to defend our nation, so we borrowed vast sums of capitol from the Banksters and low and behold plunged ourselves deep into debt AGAIN!! We died while these greasy Banksters grew fat and bloated on the profit of selling arms to countries “on both sides” all the while they are also reaping interest on the loans as well!
So many wonderful human beings died on all sides of the war, thinking that something needed defending, that their loved ones were worth the sacrifice and so trundled off into to battle not realising it was all for the profit of others, for a very limited few.
We all lost truly wonderful beings in this costly escapade, and even to this day most of the population are none the wiser to what their loved ones died for.
After all is said and done the insipid elite has played chess with our loved ones, ruined families and generations of good honest decent wholesome people for profit, nothing more than profit.
My friends my final mention on this subject in this article is this WHAT YEAR ARE WE IN? HOW MANY YEARS HAVE PAST SINCE 1869 + 70 = 1939 + 70 =???? Are you feeling it? Are you seeing this so called financial crisis (hoax) can you see the G20 as just another waste of your money? Do you see that what this is about is a reorganisation of the bankruptcy that is being renewed AGAIN and we will be tied in to another 70 years of taxes that strip us of both our funds and assets, not to mention our will to live and freedoms!
This so called NEW WORLD ORDER is just a spin off, what they are talking about is a new reordering of the banking and world financial systems to their own ends.
There is nothing here for you and I, this is 2009, we should be rejoicing at the loss of debt at last, instead the smoke screen of a world financial crisis is being perpetuated and the world leaders (Banksters Puppets all bought and paid for) are merely facilitating the whole transition.
After that bit of background information I offer you some more information.
Obviously we know we are operating in a full Bankruptcy that is equivalent to Chapter 11 (debtors in Possession) in this type of system you are supposed to forgive all debts, that’s the agreement after all, not to do so is in fact in violation and dishonourment of the Bankruptcy.
How is this achieved? Yes you guessed it your BC (Birth Certificate) and subsequent NI number, accounting requires that all things are traceable and accountable, so even if they forgive your debts you must be able to account for it, write it to something for cancelling out of the liability or zeroing the books if you like!
This is the very essence of AFV, i.e. the company (lets use my great friend “John Harris” and incorporate him) so “John Harris Ltd” wants money, he creates a bill for the required sum, he then with the bills serial number enters it on the negative side of the ledger, this is a proposed liability and some kind of payment is required to zero that account, the company “John Harris Ltd” has proposed that you help expand public funds according to public policy, so now.. to be honest if it was done properly the proposed liability would be issued to you and you would accept it for value and assign it to be paid via your exemption account (NI Number).
But “John Harris Ltd” has been naughty, he has gone over your head and attempted to attach the liability directly to your “Exemption Account” or “straw man” and if you’re not set up right, you are surety for it! Which is not an honourable practice but it is done by just about every company running in business today, not to mention, you don’t even know your exemption account exists! So when you see these bills you just pay them, what you don’t realise is happening is that the “proposed liability” is being paid via your exemption account and your sweat equity (fiat currency) so in fact it is being paid twice! This is called “double dipping”.
Well I refer back to the bank in Iceland, why the hell would a COUNCIL have 50 million pounds in a bank generating vast amounts of interest? And where the hell did that interest go? Who was enjoying it? And what the hell was a council doing with 50 million pounds anyway? I thought they were all so broke? That is why they tax you half to death isn’t it?!!
I have it on good authority from an ex council accountant, that some seriously interesting accounting is being done by councils, plenty of offshore goings on!
So hopefully you understand the bankruptcy, the foundation of AFV and why we use it, again it is a hard fight getting it recognised, but I can tell you from behind the scenes that it is gaining huge momentum and again I would like to remind you that it is a valid process here in the UK and very high up the corporate ladder know it, they just don’t want to stop double dipping.
I hope this little addition was worth reading, for your understanding of this system is important if you wish to try it.
AFV also reduces the UK’s debt to the Banksters (Mobsters) thus lessening the need to print more to pay for things and thus we don’t need it from the Mobsters and thus not borrowed equals no need to pay it back WITH INTEREST!!
By expanding funds under public policy, it not only saves you your “sweat Equity” (Cash, Fiat Currency) but also removes power from the Mobsters less debt “should” mean less loans to pay and “should” mean less taxes, well in a less crooked world anyway.
I hope you enjoyed the read.
Thanks to Mathew Coe for his recent info
Thanks to John Harris for suffering temporary Incorporation
Look out for the upcoming article about the Bankruptcy and what is really going on in full, it is a massive topic and we are working hard to bring the information as soon as possible.